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As a white kid my parents didnt give me a hardtime about hip hop until i brought home Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet. Haha pretty racially toned album i think my mom was shocked. PE is classic though! OPP didnt go over well with mom either! Haha
Can someone link Nas and the brave hearts oochie Wally love that song and the video.
The title of the thread is Hip Hop. Not rap. Two different genres.
H.E.R = Hearing Every Rhyme
I used to love her too...
Sorry man, the point was to prove stereotypes wrong. Probably shouldn't have worded it that way, my bad. I work with a bunch of guys with sticks up their asses...they walk into my office and I have Red Cafe on Pandora and give me an odd luck. I just think it's more surprising to them anything. I come in peace...
Who cried for old school?
Music video by Eric B. Rakim performing Paid In Full. (C) 1987 UMG Recordings, Inc.
Another jam that I played WAY too much in HS. This is the stuff.
Music video by The Beastie Boys performing Shake Your Rump. (C) 2009 Capitol Records, LLC and Beastie Boys
Rap is actually a part of hip hop culture... KRS One...
Born Lawrence Parker in Park Slope, Brooklyn in the summer of 1965, the rapper left home at 14 to play basketball and read books free of the gaze of the authorities (his mother and the New York City public school system). He landed in a homeless shelter in the South Bronx, where he was dubbed Krishna by residents because of his interest in the Hare Krishna spirituality of some of the antipoverty workers. By the time Krishna met youth counselor Scott Sterling, he was also writing graffiti as KRS-One (Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone). Together he and Sterling, a.k.a. DJ Scott La Rock, created Boogie Down Productions, releasing their landmark debut album, Criminal Minded, in 1987.
In the summer of 1984, KRS-One hit the music scene with a rap group called "Scott La rock and the Celebrity Three" with a record called "Advance". And that was, in a time when most rappers rhymed about cars, jewelry, alcohol, and the latest dance, KRS-One was rhyming about nuclear war prevention. Scott La Rock and the Celebrity Three was comprised of Scott La Rock, Levi167,MC Quality, and KRS-One. After legal problems with the head of the label, Scott La Rock and the Celebrity Three were released from their contract. In the winter of 1984, KRS-One wrote a song called "Stop The Violence" although by this time The Celebrity Three had broken up and only KRS-One and Scott La Rock remained. Both realized they had to change the name of the group and they did: the new group was called The Boogie Down Crew.
In 1985, Scott La Rock was asked to do an already written and produced record for Sleeping Bag Records. Of course Kris and Scott wanted to concentrate on their own Boogie Down Crew but first they had to go through this. For this project they were paid nothing and had no rights or claims to anything. It was this project that educated Kris and Scott as to the importance of being producers of their music, as well as the artists, so at this point they decided to change the name of their own Boogie Down Crew to Boogie Down Productions.
At the close of 1987, the B.D.P lifestyle got real and Scott La Rock was killed trying to break up a dispute in the Bronx. This shocked the hip hop communitity and as a result rap and violence became a topic in the mainstream press. The rap community thought Boogie Down Productions was over but this only led to new plans for KRS-One. In 1988, KRS-One left B. Boy Records to sign with Jive Records and "By All Means Necessary" was released. Rap music was under a mainstream microscope and KRS-One now was able to release what he and Scott always dreamed about, an album that gave rap a different image. His first video on Jive Records was for "My Philosophy", a song that re-established his presence in the rap world
WE ARE! And we will always be...
You good no need to apologize for anything. Who cares what they think its your choice what you wanna listen to. You listed some really tight MC's so keep on bumping those beats.
Couldnt agree more todays stuff is popular rap and 90s stuff was golden era hiphop it really is two completly different genres!
Still one of my favorites. Hands down.
nah... It's really not. There is some shitty rap, just like there is some shitty rock...
Ok gonna stump you guys! How many know the song Tried by 12 by a group called East Flatbush Projects!
Here's one of the most commercial rappers out right now killin it. Hip hop...
BIG SEAN FREESTYLING IN KANYE'S TRAILER BEFORE THE G.O.O.D MUSIC SHOWCASE IN AUSTIN, TX!
Even though im not a jay z fan one of the rawest nyc hiphop tracks. Where Im From! Just absurd how good that is.
88 keys is a great producer... Here is another commercial rapper, killin it freestylin... The point is... Commercial rappers, are still rappers... You have some better than others... And some just suck. That doesn't make it not hip hop. It makes it shitty.
After Recording "Waisting My Minutes" For My Upcoming Mixtape [Adam's Case Files: The Mixtape] I Just Threw On Some Old-Ass Beats I Had Laying Around For A Couple of "Yurr's" (Literally) & He Just Went Off. He Was Killin' It For A While Until I Realized, "Hey... I Should Tape This Sh*t," Thus Proving My Genius. *ha* Enjoy & Get Adam's Case Files: The Mixtape And Cop The Album [The Death of Adam] When It Drops. Aight... Love, Peace & Punani! 88-Keys of Locksmith Music, Inc.
Rap may be a part of the "hip hop culture," but rap and hip hop are not the same types of music.
Like, House and Trance and Dub Step and Techno are are part of the "electronic dance music culture," but they are three different genres of music. Some would say very different.
I'm a pretty huge fan of some of Outkast's old stuff...ATLiens was a great album (and song).
From 1996 Album: "ATLiens".....
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OutKast is an American hip hop duo based in East Point, Georgia, a city south of Atlanta, Georgia. They were originally known as The OKB (The OutKast Brothers) but later changed the group's name to OutKast. The group's original musical style was a mixture of Dirty South and G-Funk. Since then, however, funk, soul, pop, electronic music, rock, spoken word poetry, jazz, and blues elements have been added to the group's musical palette. The duo consists of Atlanta native André "André 3000" Benjamin (formerly known as Dré) and Savannah, Georgia-born Antwan "Big Boi" Patton.
The duo is one of the most successful hip-hop groups of all time, having received six Grammy Awards. Over 25 million copies have been sold of OutKast's eight releases: six studio albums, a greatest hits release, and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, a double album containing a solo album from each member. Along with their commercial success, OutKast has maintained an experimental approach in their music and are widely praised for their originality and artistic content.
Benjamin and Patton met while attending Tri-Cities High School, a Visual and Performing Arts School. Benjamin's parents were divorced and he was living with his father. Meanwhile, Patton had to move with his four brothers and six sisters from Savannah to Atlanta. Benjamin and Patton eventually teamed up and were pursued by Organized Noize, a group of local producers who would later make hits for TLC. The duo initially wanted to be called "2 Shades Deep" or "The Misfits", but because those names were already taken they later decided to use "OutKast" based on finding "outcast" as synonym for "misfit" in a dictionary. OutKast, Organized Noize, and schoolmates Goodie Mob formed the nucleus of the Dungeon Family organization.
OutKast signed to LaFace Records in 1992, becoming the label's first hip hop act and making their first appearance on the remix of labelmate TLC's "What About Your Friends". In 1993, they released their first single, "Player's Ball". The song's funky style, much of it accomplished with live instrumentation, was a hit with audiences. "Player's Ball" hit number-one on the Billboard Hot Rap Tracks chart.
Their debut album, Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, was issued on April 26th, 1994. This initial effort is credited with laying the foundation for southern hip hop and is considered a classic by many hip hop aficionados. Every track on Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik was produced by Organized Noize and featured other members of the Dungeon Family. Follow-up singles included the title track and "Git Up Git Out", a politically charged collaboration with Goodie Mob that was later sampled by Macy Gray for her 1999 hit "Do Something." On this early material, both André and Big Boi contrast lyrical content reflecting the lifestyles of pimps and gangsters with politically conscious material commenting on the status of African Americans in the South. OutKast won Best New Rap Group at the Source Awards in 1995. In the same year, the group contributed "Benz or a Beamer" to the popular New Jersey Drive soundtrack.
ATLiens was OutKast's second album, released on August 27th, 1996. The album exhibited more self-consciousness, and further solidified OutKast as the flagship representatives of the 1st generation Dungeon Family and the Southern hip hop movement. The album helped the group earn more recognition among East Coast hip hop fans in the East and West coasts.
For this album, OutKast joined with partner David "Mr. DJ" Sheats to form the Earthtone III production company, which allowed the group to produce some of their own tracks. "ATLiens" was the group's second Top 40 single (following "Player's Ball" from their first album), and reflected the beginning of André's increasingly sober lifestyle: "No drugs or alcohol/so I can get the signal clear," he rhymes about himself. "Elevators (Me & You)," OutKast's first self-produced single, became the group's first Top 20 hit the same year.
Extended & updated info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outkast
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Also, Lupe's first couple albums...The Cool, Food and Liquor...loved those
We just disagree. I believe the difference between golden era hiphop and todays rap is so different theres hardly anything in common to me its nite and day.
I just cherish those days growing up feel fortunate to have that hiphop. Illmatic just got me hooked.
uhhh kendrick lamar and others would take offense to that. There are some young talented rappers out there man. I feel bad that you don't know about them. I will post some.
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Favorite cypher. They all went in. While were on Nas.
Classic track. Lauryn & Nas is an ill team.
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Meyer4Prez "This is wut happens when ur team site analyst are huge homers glad Bill K+Alex G keep it real instead of getting our hopes up."
Three of them are in a group called Tanya Morgan... I will post a few of their songs. here is she moved outta the city. Ill as FU$%
If you listen to Illmatic you hear Soul in the tracks and beats. Its just smooth to me cant explain it. If you listen to Lil Wayne wheres the soul in that product? None that i can see. Its why i believe that was a special moment in music that cant be duplicated.
Many on here don't like today's hip hop "crap" compared to the great stuff of yesteryear. I get that. I often feel the same way.
But the fact is, it's just different. It's changed/evolved so much, most of what you hear today (i.e. popular "hip hop") is truly a different genre than much of what you guys are mentioning that you liked so much years ago. You liked yesterday's stuff more than today's. That's cool.
Today, there are still artist doing stuff/rap in the same style as what you liked years ago. So, that is what you like. Again, that's cool. But comparing today's popular Hip Hop to Tribe to Outkast is truly comparing apples to oranges. Today's popular hip hop obviously has elements of rap, but it's not rap.
Today's hip hop "crap" will be someone else's great stuff from yesteryear, 10-20 years from now.
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