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Rivals has Hack as a 5 Star now.
This post was edited by warner3398 15 months ago
Did espn bump him as well?
Don't follow the other sites, but would this make Hack the consensus top QB in 13'?
My bad. Espn still has him as a 4 star but 15th overall.
Probably neck and neck with Browne.
Does anyone have any unbias insight or observations on Browne? I saw him in action during the All-Star game and he didn't look that great. In all honesty, none of the QBs did, mainly because of it being an All-Star game. I don't have the time to look up his highlights now, but I guess I'm finally curious on how good Browne really is and how he compares to Hack? Can anyone help me out with this? I've got a bad case of the Mondays.....
From what I've seen Browne is more polished and accurate at this point, but Hack has more physical tools and upside. I also think Browne has had professional QB coaching for a few years now, and Hack has not.
Basically, Browne is Barkley junior and Hack is a natural raw talent that has not had any major QB coaching? So he grades out like Luck when he was being recruited, a kid with raw talent, pro body, and a high ceiling.
****clarifying I'm not sayin he's Andrew Luck, just comparing similarities is recruiting assessments from years past*****
Btw, thanks for the response.
Also, FYI -- Mahon is 4* and #58 player overall on Rivals.
From free article: "Mahon got one of the biggest bumps in the rankings because he manhandled some of the best players in the country down at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl," Friedman said of the Penn State commitment. "He showed that he can handle the pass rush and was rarely fooled by the various stunts by the defensive line. When run-blocking, Mahon drove his man downfield as if the were on roller skates. On the most impressive things about Mahon is his versatility. At the U.S. Army All-American Bowl, Mahon played center for the first time in his life and proved to be more then effective."
"Penn State has taken a lot of punches in the last six months and it's time to punch back" - BOB
that would be my take as well and polished is a good term for him. He certainly looks ready to step onto a college football field right now. He makes all the throws, including some that a lot of other D1 QBs struggle with. He has very good form, release, and footwork. He's been well coached and it shows.
I wouldn't say Hack has been poorly coached at all though. He just hasn't had the fine tuned, professional level coaching Browne has. There are a lot of little things that Hack will need some work on and under Fisher/OB there is no doubt they will squeeze every ounce of potential out of him. Which, when you think about it, is really exciting because he has as much potential as any kid I've seen at the position in a PSU uni. The key will be not to rush him. I really hope that we can afford to redshirt him to polish him up before sending him out there.
The concern about Browne is his athleticism, especially as it relates to his footwork. He is very mechanical in his movement and in his ability to move around the pocket. Hack is a much, much more fluid athlete and his pocket presence and footwork are far more natural.
Browne is a bit more accurate, but he's also been coached up big time. Browne, to me, has the look of a bust. The last kid to come out of his program as a big time QB was Jake Heaps, who was a huge bust.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
He started out the year as ESPN's #1 QB, did they knock him down?
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Heaps was OK at BYU, and had to sit out last year when he transferred to KU. He still has time to get it together.
I don't think Browne is a bust, he just reminds me a lot of Barkley. A very accurate passer, but he won't improve much year to year. He'll come in as a guy that could start as a true FR, and other than some natural growth and work in the weight room, he's not going to change much. JMO.
No, espn only has a handful of five stars and no qbs, hack is still number one there.
Heaps appeared to regress at BYU. Never a good sign. Maybe he rebounds at KU, but I'm not betting on it.
The guy is a load. It's semi-criminal that they didn't bump his rating at all on 247.
Eh, I thought he had the tools, just needed more help around him.
Bronco started out doing well there, but they've struggled the past few seasons, and he what he has been doing doesn't seem to be turning things around.
MTayl is ear to ear right about now.
"One man didn't build this program and one man sure as hell cannot tear it down."
Psh, aint telling me anything I wasn't saying a year ago...
But yes, I am.
Hackenberg is essentially ranked a 5 star or top QB on all 4 recruiting sites::
247 -- 5 Star, #1 QB, # 7 overall
Rivals -- 5 Star, #2 QB, #24 overall
Scout -- 5 Star, #2 QB, #33 overall
ESPN - 4 Star, #1QB, #15 overall (only 11 five stars currently awarded)
This is impressive as he has moved up significantly on all 3 sites throughout the year, ESPN was only site to have him this high all year.
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