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I agree that he is scheduled to graduate in a few years and PSU has a lot of depth at Oline, but I am more worried about what we are gonig to go to the field with in 2 years. Sure he might not play this year, but in 2 years he could have been a kid to help us on Oline or maybe Dline. We also have to factor in that kids can still transfer without penalty. So, we are going to lose more kids. The bottom line is that unless the kid is total problem, PSU needs to keep and retain as much as possible. Do not think about this year, think about the next three years.
Well, that sucks. I was expecting Luke to do some big things.
our issue on the OL is we have a huge Jr. class of kids. When they graduate we will be pretty thin on the OL. Unfortunately with the 15 scholarship limitations and high priorities at other positions where we are somewhat desparate (DB and LB) we cannot afford to take more than 2-3 lineman this year. Given the normal development period for lineman of a couple years we will be pretty limited in the number of lineman we have available that can actually contribute in 2014-2015.
I knew guys that loved the game, came from military families, some who were starters, all quit. You don't understand what they go through, the time, the effort it requires, the mental exhaustion, the emotional toll, much less the physical nature of the game. It isn't all fun. It isn't all about football and loving the game. This is college, its a business. Not HS with your buddies. Hell, I was a three year starter and 2x All-Conference, love the game to this day, but going out to practice day in and day out...I hated it. I HATED practicing. Hated it with every fiber. Offseason lifting and conditioning, God that was awful.
No you don't know. If you would have "done it in a second" you would have nutted up and tried to walk on just to see how it felt to get your ass kicked one day out there Rudy.
I have to agree with you on the hating practice thing. I played at D2 for an ex marine. Practices were brutal. I can remember only one guy who liked it, he was older and was also ex marine. I guess practice was easy for him compared to what he was use to.
You don't know me, or my history and you can't say what I would of done. I was realistic enough to know a 5'8" 165 lb lineman fully wet was a pipe-dream, so no walking-on. Just because you hated the training does not mean that everybody else does too.....So climb off your soap box and preach to someone else. Have a nice day.
The only ones who like practice in college are QBs and WRs. God their lives are easy. I remember every Thursday during ST periods watching the QBs try to hit the goal post from 30 yards out while we were doing sled work and double team drills.
And I'm saying you don't know shit about shit with what these guys do and how you would have responded. At the college level it isn't all about fun and games.
Funny, I remember coming in with about 30 other freshman. My senior year there were 12 of us left.
Same, came in with 46 I think. Graduated with 11 or so. Most leave after year one.
During camp my SR year I was icing between practices and in strolls our QB still with his yellow jersey on (no contact) and complains about a sore foot or something. Looks at me with minimum 6 bags strapped to me (after my bath mind you), walks out, comes back with a gatorade and says "you may need this more than I do". We joked about how he thought he had it rough that day til he saw his OL in the training room and realized he literally had done nothing but sit in shotgun all day.
The good old days!
Wow just took a look at the 2010 class of recruits. Almost everyone is gone now. What a weird class.
The only thing I could think of that would be worse than going through training camp is going through knowing that you would never get a real shot at playing in a game. That is brutal. I said this back in the Royer thread, if guys don't understand why a kid who wasn't going to start would rather just get a free education and party on the weekends, I don't know what to tell ya.
double post, computer issues...
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At D3 SUNY Geneseo, I lived with a lot of "special talent" athletes, meaning they got into the college because of their athletic talents. They had the same choice that every Penn State football player without an NFL hope has now, to play for the love of the game, or to quit without financial reprecussions. Out of the circle of friends I was closest with, 7 were special talent lacross or basketball, 4 quit before practices started freshman year, and only 1 played until he was a senior. The rest are all great guys who preferred an extra 15-25 hours a week to study, work, and party. Obviously the situations are different there and at Penn State, but it isn't a simple decision.
More than just football
I think it would reflect worst on those that executed the hoax. Followed by psu for allowing it. Ncaa last because psu provided it.
I think its our only chance.
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Disagree. I am pretty sure he will count against the 65. This was another way the NCAA screwed us over. You are allowed to walk, stay on scholarship and consume a schollie that somebody with pads on could use.
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So for those asking: Yes. Those scholarships do count against psu team total. Even though players are no longer on team.
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