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Jeez. rmj, they're all picking at you about GT possibilities and BIG. I think you're right. This would be a great move for BIG. They've got great academics, descent sports teams, AAU, a fairly good research fit, and a footprint in the south. Makes alot of sense to me.
I agree Texas, instead of this super conference crap I wish they went the opposite and went to small conferences. 10 or 9 team conferences where everyone plays everyone once with three or four OCG's. No conference title game... use the week as part of a playoff. Now you get 16 team leagues with teams on the other side of the conference only coming to your stadium once every 5 years ish.
Yeah, that's never going to happen... $$$ rules the day.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
Right? I mean, moves are being made... And there aren't too many other teams that fit the footprint of things we are looking for that you pointed out, and as getmyjive listed...
This post was edited by rmj147 17 months ago
Not trying to be a prick, just throwing around points. But where does it stop? In my mind if your trying to pluck from the ACC GT would be way down the list.
UVA, VT, UNC, Florida State, Clemson
GT, NCSTATE, Boston College
Miami, Duke, Wake,
FSU, Clemson are NOT happening (academics matter)... And VT is doubtful. UVA should be there instead. Also, "second tier" is not way down the line... and I would put GT WAY above NCState and BC.
What other moves are being made? I don't see anything happening anywhere else. The Pac 12 isn't expanding (they have no where to go) The SEC isn't making any moves.
The AAU thing eliminates everyone but UVA, UNC, GT and Duke. Out of those four, GT has the most attractive TV market by far. If that is what we are going after (and that seems to be the case), they are #1, followed by UNC and then UVA. Duke is an afterthought.
The Big XII could make a move very soon (FSU, Clemson, Miami and Louisville are all on the table). The SEC has long been rumored to be interested in VT and NC St. If one of them pops, look out.
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Academics absolutely matter. You will not see Clemson, FSU, NCS, or VT in the BIG. Research also matters, so that eliminates Duke and BC. That leaves UNC, UVA, and GT. The most viable is GT. I believe the BIG academic folks rue the day they accepted Neb. They have to improve and I think they will.
I like 20 in conference. Round robin regular season, opportunity for cross division and ooc play. Then, perfectly set up for a playoff and post season.
Of course you wouldn't rally need the ncaa anymore - so that'd be the key downside of this whole thing. :)
I agree with everything you say except regarding Duke. In 2010, Duke was the seventh in total research by academic institution in 2008 (14th in total Federal R&D). I think it also is out of the running, but I think it relates more to it being a private institution.
This post was edited by Lion_in_CBus 17 months ago
If they take GT and either UVA or NC, I think they'd be OUTSTANDING additions on all fronts. I'd take GT in a heartbeat for market exposure. Great, credible institution as well. No brainer for me.
GT doesn't bring anything. Do you think that the BTN will be on basic cable in Georgia in the middle of SEC/ACC country just because a team that noone in the state even cares about is in the B1G?
It would be the worst expansion decision a conference has made since the ACC decided to add BC in 2004. Do you think BC brought the ACC the Boston Market?
Maybe not a home run, but to say they do nothing is absurd IMO.
If the current staff sticks around for a long time, then adding southern teams is great for PSU. In addition to the northeast and mid-atlantic, BOB and co. are focusing more on the south than the midwest. If the end game is 20+ teams, I see no problem adding GT: great academics, good tv market, and good for recruiting. The sooner we get to these super conferences, the sooner the NCAA can be cut out.
GT is a draw in Atlanta...not what UGA is, but enough that it will get the Network on a lot more TVs. UVA and UNC don't do that. Only Texas and ND would make a significant splash in TV markets nationwide. In consideration of the population shift, I believe it to be a wise visionary move to include a few southern schools in expansion. GT brings a portion of the largest southern market, along with outstanding academics. Heck, I'd take UVA, UNC, GT, and Vanderbilt if possible. Throw in Duke and ND to get to 20 and that's a powerhouse academic conference w unbelievable market share.
I dont see GT as a great fit. Academically yes, sports wise no. Yes the TV market is bigger than UNC but that and recruiting base is all that GT gives the BIG and UGa still will dominate there. Atlanta is SEC and always will be. GT has no soccer, wrestling, lacrosse, field hockey or ice hockey. TV market wise, why not go BC? Great hockey, same TV market and bigger AD plus might be attractive to ND to have BC. Still, UNC and UVa are the best fit. Contiguous states. Locks down MD, DC, VA markets. Gets into a growing NC TV market. Instantly makes BIG the top lacrosse conference, top 2 in soccer and arguably top BBall. Both also have wrestling. I would be surprised if GT is even being considered.
No to GT because they use Russell Athletic as their uniform supplier
In all seriousness, I'd much rather have UVA and UNC.
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
If you get UVA and UNC, whats stopping you from adding more? And if you add more, guess who's on the short list? GT.
Yep. If they add GT, then I'm betting the plan is to go to 20+ teams down the line.
UNC, UVA, BC, maybe Kansas or Cuse
Try to get ND again.
tcu didnt take a step back. they lost a 4 year starting qb. for daltons last 2 years they were the best team in texas.
Yes, the BTN would be. See Rutgers and the NY market as your newest example of that when they come over here.
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