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I'm also expecting about a 10 point win but wouldn't be shocked if it was closer. I think the emotion and new playcalling will help PSU jump out to an early lead but I think that Ohio battles back and with a pretty good QB, they make a late game charge with our depleted secondary. People are predicting big things from Ohio this year and I'm not saying that they will win but I wouldn't predict a blowout b/c of the new schemes on offense and defense will certainly lead to a few lapses during the game.
Dominate The State
Phil Steele is a smart guy, but not with this game.
BacardiBuckeye: "But in all honesty I like Penn State, I want to see Penn State do good that's why I check this board everyday." 4/2/14
Bottom line, PSU is an unknown right now. Sure, we can name guys who have experience and talent. However, we have a new coach; new schemes; new everything.
Ohio is a dangerous opening game. Considering PSU is used to starting out with the dregs like YSU in recent years, this isn't a high school team PSU is starting with. People have a bigger idea of what to expect from Ohio than PSU.
It doesn't matter if its close ... a win is a win.
This post was edited by Hamilton Lion 23 months ago
Im thinking this could be anywhere from a one posession game to a 25 point blowout. Too many unknowns to be sure at this juncture.
I agree with this. I really have no idea what to expect. Going to be a very interesting game.
There isn't one coaching change that is negative. How could there be? We upgraded everything on offense (this is almost by default, considering our previous offensive staff), our players are bigger and faster, and we retained the two coaches worth a damn on defense.
Some of the worries this year have always been worries. Secondary depth, QB play, overall depth. Yet, with one exception, we have won at least nine games since 05.
Just because we don't return the exact same team as last year doesn't mean we are an unknown. Just have to know what you're looking at. To me, this feels exactly like 2005. Written off, team is incredibly focused, offense undergoes a major change in philosophy, a stout defense, and incredible senior leadership. That team obviously had more experience overall, and I don't expect a near undefeated season, but we are going to win this year.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
I'm not insinuating there is one negative. This is a better staff. However, just because you upgraded virtually every position (still weary about Roof), DOESN'T mean PSU is going to click its feet together and run people into the ground. New schemes mean a work in progress to me. Big difference between running them in practice and in a game situation wouldn't you say?
Bottom line, PSU is an unknown right now. You can't say we lost XXX players, but XXX players return and we have this guy back and this one and then throw some random win total out there. If you can tell me exactly how this season shakes out right now, I will call you God, because the people closest to the situation don't know at this juncture either.
He needs to practice his abbreviations...almost illegible.
I don't think the defense is undergoing that radical of a change, which is the unit we will lean on this year. They are going to be strong unless Roof turns out to be a total bum.
Offensively, I just don't think we could possibly be worse. The position coaching is too strong now and the strength coaching is going to make a critical difference at the LOS, where we have had a distinct disadvantage in the past. Every individual player will be better for those reasons. Makes it tough for me to believe that we won't make positive strides. We also have younger guys who were just learning to swim last year that have emerged. Belton, Kenney, Robinson, Carter, plus new guys who are making waves like Lynch, James, and Williams.
Basically, we had nine wins last year, Bama is off the schedule, and we aren't going to be worse.
I agree! +
The schedule is tougher this year than last. Bama is off the slate, but so is BS Indy State and EMU. UVA, Navy, Ohio U is alot better collectively than Bama, Indy State and EMU. No sure losses, like Bama, but no sure wins like EMU or Indy State.
This team could indeed make major improvements, but you might not see it by just looking at the record. You can't go off last year's record and say what you are saying.
"Making waves" in practice is totally different than in the game. I hope you are indeed right and nine wins happens. However, I think you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. There is a fine line between winning and losing with this squad. Yes, better staff; players are in better shape; they will develop better (hopefully); strong leadership and some talented young kids to unleash. However, we have LITTLE depth in key areas - several of them. We are two injuries away from a long season.
Agreed. Maybe last years coaches I would expect a 3 point game. I don't expect that anymore. I say we win by at least 13.
I don't care what the "experts" say....there is talent on this team.
This post was edited by md154 23 months ago
To me, not knowing the outcome will make the game more fun.. Those games where we are up 20+ at halftime is stupid unless we are playin scum, OSu, nd, Wisky, neb, etc.. The crowd should be crazy for four quarters regardless..
Who has the edge in heavy rain?
It would be a wash
People don't seem to appreciate how great of a DC Tom Bradley was. They also don't seem to appreciate how awful Roof has been recently.
You're setting yourself up for a big disappointment. Lay off that koolaid big guy, you've had a sip or three too much.
This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita 23 months ago
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
I don't see PSU averaging more than 30+ pts. this year. But this is one team in which I expect our defense to dominate. PSU 33-9 over an overmatched and out-coached Ohio opponent.
October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
Bradley was fine. He was hardly "great". He had superior talent in the front seven every single year, ran a bland defensive system that couldn't execute a blitz to save its life, and we consistently got rolled by any defense we faced with a serious pulse.
Roof was hardly awful. I've done detailed breakdowns of his time at Auburn multiple times, and I'm not going to do it again, but to say that we will have more defensive players drafted this year off of the defensive unit than he did his entire time at Auburn would not be incorrect. He sparked a dramatic turn around at Minny in his one year there and brought similar success to Duke while he was DC there. He had multiple strong units at Georgia Tech, including a top 15 unit in 2000.
The defense had issues at Auburn, but he was a square peg in a round hole working under Chizik's philosophy, on top of an obvious lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball.
Bradley wasn't able to do everything he wanted while he worked under Joe here, yet we had multiple top 10 defenses under him. Also, blitzing sounds great, until you get people throwing on a secondary that has had one decent unit in the past decade.
Actually, we did pretty decently against Big Ten offenses, which is what we were designed to defend. No, we didn't do well against USC, because we didn't and hopefully never do devise our scheme based on an offense we never face. A West Coast offense isn't run in the Big Ten. There are a few spreads, but the talent gap between us and NW/Illinois is huge.
Roof's defenses were horrendous at Auburn, and was run out of there. Chizik is a former DC himself, and a very good one, so it's not like he doesn't know defensive x's and o's and stopped Roof from doing his thing. It's also not quite as difficult to have "turnarounds" rankings wise at Minny and Duke, because both were some of the worst in football before he got there. Horrendous to average is a big turnaround.
I'll take a guy like Bradley, who has had multiple top ten defenses under his watch, than a guy like Roof, who has one top 15 defense in his career, which came over a decade ago.
Saying Bradley wasn't "worth a damn," is ignorant. Bradley was awesome, and people are going to have a rude awakening if Roof continues his run of bad defense. We've been spoiled with great DCs, and Roof is not a great DC. At best he is better than average.
Also, you changed your stance on defense this season. Before you stated that there "wasn't much change in defensive scheme," then praise Roof's system for being different than Bradley's.
It's hard to get more different than Roof and Bradley's defenses.
+1. Bradley was as good as the steady stream of AA d-linemen and LB's that LJ and Vandy produced. IIRC, Penn State has had 1st team AA's at every position except DB. Unless Roof goes out of his way to mess with the front 7, they will be as talented or more talented than any O-line they will face this year. Edit: barring injury.
This post was edited by psujmc1992 23 months ago
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
People think a trained monkey could do the job Bradley did.
A lot of teams have great talent, but it takes a damn good DC to finish top ten statistically year in and year out.
And an offensively challenged conference.
6 Big 10 teams were in top 20 in the country in total defense last year.
Except for Ohio State and Michigan and Michigan State and Northwestern and Wisconsin. Yeah.
An offense doesn't have to throw 45 times a game to be effective, or put up 400+ yards. Different offenses have different goals and pros and cons. Personally I prefer more of a pro style scheme because it keeps my defense off the field more, let's them rest a little longer. Even if they only put up 250 yards, if they dominate possession and don't turn the ball over, there is a good chance the team will be in the game towards the end of the ball game. Can't say that about a spread scheme with no huddle that puts up 500 yards and 40 points.
It's also a dumb point to argue that we played in an offensively weak conference, because you game plan for your conference. Coaches don't design schemes for OOC opponents that there's a 5% chance of playing at the end of the season.
How many SEC schools were?
Where was Roof's defense in total ypg? I'd even say against OOC opponents they would be bottom half of the country.
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