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I guess to me it falls under stupid, not racist.
And penn state has the culture problem......
ESPN has known this guy was a tool but continued to employ.
this is sad on multiple levels.... I guess successful, well educated people who think for themselves can not be considered black, even if they are? And the guy claiming this is black himself? the with "us" or against "us" mindset is only preventing the issue from moving forward IMO. I often work with young Black and Latino males and I can say without a doubt that they need more positive role models. They need to see athletes that graduate early with honors, that are well spoken and educated, that are working hard to succeed, and that aren't afraid to think for themselves and fight for what they believe despite going against the grain. Condemning someone like this as "not black" is just plain stupid on top of racist.
I'm with you on the just plain stupid. I just don't get the racist aspect I guess.
Parker isn't judging him on his skin color he's judging him on how he carries himself. I personally think he carries himself well and thats why I think It's just a stupid remark and not a racist one.
Racism has lost its meaning. Things that are racist are against inherent features, coming from someone who does not come from the same background. Like White on Black or Black on Asian. It could be internalized racism an which is not uncommon. This is more religion based, but I remember reading that George Soros made money during World War II by selling his own people out to the Nazis. He thought he was better than his fellow Jews.
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I think it's racist because he's implying that in order to really be "black", you have to conform to the group think. you have to "act black", "think black", and "be black" and he's defining what it means to be black an not allowing others to define themselves. He's basically attacking someone of his own race for being different. IMO, that's what racism is.... making assumptions about people based on their race.
This post was edited by spud358 16 months ago
I think this is the best post in this thread, but I still don't fully agree with it.
I think everyone has to define things like racism in their own way and wouldn never expect everyone to agree on these topics. For me, anytime someone is telling someone else how they should act, think, feel, etc. because of their race, I place that under the umbrella of racism.
I guess for me it's more of judgement cast upon a person by what their background is, not necessarily how they act.
Exactly. ANY time you use race in a discussion to debate behavior, its a racism issue. Race is nothing more than a visual of what we look like. Anything else is each of our own ignorant beliefs on what someone should be like based on that color. And the fach he said his fiance is white clearly shows where the guys head is.
No comment from RMJ in this thread, I am shocked.
Rob Parker is dumb ass. Get the f-ck over this black pride bullshit. we are about to be in 2013, not 1963. Racism only exists in the mind of people like Parker who try to dissect every situation or comment into some injustice to African Americans. Its sad really. I have listend to Rob Parker numerous times and he is always spouting off some stupid nonsense that makes no sense.
If RGIII wants to have a white wife, so be it, good for him.
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You white people arguing about racism on here is always entertaining.
Is it just me, or has this issue come up a lot recently?
Apparently I was defending the racist black guy so thats new.
Ha...I would love to see the reaction if someone said "you black people"...
I think the proper terminology in that scenario would just be "you people."
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October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
I didn't see this until just now... Wow. Dumb ass comments... Hope he gets fired... He was off pudding on PSU comments too of course. This guy talks out of his ass.
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It actually means to infer that your race is superior to others... But yeah, seems to be that he did just that. By putting down RGIII's white fiance... Which is BS and he should have been suspended. Screw Rob whatever his name is. He's a jackass.
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This post was edited by rmj147 16 months ago
I agree that this is bad. However, where were you people when white girls were implying that Mexicans were inferior? This sense of outrage is interesting to me, when only a few weeks ago, you were telling people to get thicker skin... This guy is an athlete in the public eye... He should have thick skin right? And again, I think this is equally as despicable and keeps people apart in this country. Just interesting to me that this is inspiring more outrage- or maybe it shouldn't because he was insinuating pro-black/anti-white... Not anti Mexican... But interesting nonetheless.
That never happened.
Right. Mow my lawn, Mexican potheads... Right...
Alot of it is simply the context. One was a joke that college students did in bad taste, but with no specific or malicious intent. The other is a grown man and a professional who is being paid a nice salary to be a representative of a corporation and the media as a whole, maaking a direct attack at a person's character and possible betrayal to his race for a political standing and his choice of partner.
Both weren't smart, in fact both were stupid, but there are absolutely different circumstances surrounding them.
This post was edited by MTayl72 16 months ago
One is a time for young people to learn a valuable lesson, and the other is a grown man that can still learn a lesson. But his lesson should come from a suspension or a firing. Which is what happened. My problem is people defending the girls, just because of their age. They were wrong, and it was racist. It was a racist joke. Thus, not a joke. A joke, based on race, putting down a race of people is not a joke.
Sure it is, its just a racist joke. But the point stands, different contexts.
Also, I would like to point out that I give RG3 a lot of credit for letting this roll off his back and take the high road. Shows a man full of character that he knows he has the support of his family and community and belief in himself not not engage in a battle with this dimwit.
Different contexts, still both racist. A racist joke is still racist... So not really sure what the point is. Just messed up at the level of outrage in one circumstance vs another. But I shouldn't be surprised. People naturally defend their own race ahead of others'. It's human nature. Some people on this board identified with the sorority girls and defended their actions to the death. Sad. I guess I'm just frustrated at the lack of open-mindedness. No one here is saying that what Rob whatever his name is did is OK. People are calling him out, just like they should. But those same people were actually defending the racist joke as OK. For whatever reason... But it was still a racist act, and should be condemned as such, IMO. I know people disagree, but that disagreement just goes to show people how far we still have to go in this country in terms of race relations (we need to talk about it and have meaningful discussions. This is yet another example of how race relations are still jacked up here in the US, as this idiot called out RGIII for not being "black enough." Now I could say that everyone should get thicker skin... But I would never do that. And I agree with everyone here that it was a racist statement from him and actions should be taken. That's something that we can agree on... But we disagree on the sorority girl situation being any different. Racism is racism... And I don't condone any of it.
Edit: Edited it up to clarify myself. I was too vague as I was in a hurry Christmas shopping. But bottom line, they are both racist acts to me and should be condemned just the same. I see no difference in a racist joke that offends the people that were the target of the joke, and a racist statement that offends people that were the target of it... Racism is racism. Period.
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