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Teams that are "loaded" have the depth that they could have a top OL, a top RB or a top WR go down and still be fine. WE would be hurting more than the top teams if this happened, depth is an issue. choose not to see it if you like but we don't have proven depth at any position other than TE.
When you say the vast majority of teams do you mean in D1 or in the top 25. I guess it is all a matter perspective.
I like where this team is heading, I like what the coaches are doing and the development looks like it is going well.
I would disagree there. Big time.
Offensive line will be “big time", led by the man-child Smith, and the future pro star Urschel. Lynch and ZZ due serious damage to BIG defenses. Bench establishes himself as the starter, and gives us a little “duel threat". Robinson get even better, and Lewis becomes the perfect compliment to him. James becomes the new “Gronk", while Carter continues where he left off before injury. Both Lehman and Wilkerson are also factors.
My surprise player on offense is Williams, who breaks out as a soph.
This post was edited by PSUHomer 14 months ago
"A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation." - Gerald Hodges
You described Bama and pretty much no one else lol If Braxton Miller goes down, OSU falls off. If Martinez goes down, its a wrap for Nebraska. You'd be surprised, but depth is a problem for every team in the country. Like I said, If a key guy goes down, BOB will adjust the offense and out-coach almost every defense in the Big Ten... I am very confident of that.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
Have not seen pics of Trevor. Guessing that comment means he's bulked up - which is another positive to through into the mix. He was not a bad reciever last year and seemed to be rounding into a good returner..Eugene Lewis, though is a guy that I real excited to see next year..
Given how the B1G did last year I am not sure that is the measuring stick I want to go by. If that is the comparison you want to use then yes, I think that our O will be the top 2 or 3 if not the best, but I believe that this staff and the base they are building should be looking to compare itself to the top 10, not the big 10. I think we are heading in the right direction despite the sanctions. We clearly have diifferent opinions of what loaded means. hmm, yeah I sound really pesemistic about PSU football......
He is in a few videos in the background and you can tell in the upper body... Good stuff from Fitz. I dunno what his number would be, but I can see 8-10 lbs...
Edit: However, Jake Kiley. My God... Eat something.
This post was edited by rmj147 14 months ago
What do we have to play for? Big Ten champs... Do you remember that we are under sanctions? lol Perspective is key during this time period... We win the Big Ten, we will be fine with recruiting and be out on top when they are over or if Corbett wins the lawsuit.
Could care less about the B1G champ, I want PSU playing to be the best, thats why you play. Don't care that they can't qualify for a BCS game, That should be the goal imo.
Im sure BOB says that the Big Ten Champ is the goal... I dont know what you're talking about. Pretty sure he wants to be undefeated. But perspective is key. I guess Im done here...
I'm all-in on the offense next year. It's going to be beast mode. It's the defense I'm worried about.
Definately some concerns there and well see how new DC handles things.
You're free to disagree, but I've spent a lot of time on national boards and even infiltrated the ND board for about a year, and the homerism here is pretty low in comparison.
“We’re doing things we couldn’t imagine,” says safety Stephen Obeng-Agyapong. “But we’re doing them together.”
The funny thing is having perspective is what I was talking about in the first place.....anyways, Sat night and I think it is time to go have a few drinks. Take care.
You too man. But realize that a successful season is Big Ten champs... And thats awesome for us... It was for OSU last year...
I'm sure if you go to the Alabama board, the homerism here would be low by comparison too. Hardly surprising that the board of a team that 1) went to the MNC, 2) had an undefeated season, 3) has a top 3 recruiting class for 2013, and 4) isn't facing crippling sanctions over the next 6 years has more homerism than our board.
I agree with this almost word for word. The QB thing I am not as sure on, but we'll see. And obviously the potential black hole on the line.
The offense has the potential to be very good. I like the idea of Akeel Lynch at RB, Carter and co. at TE, Robinson and Lewis at WR, etc. I think we're fairly thin at RB, though. Zwinak is a nice back, but I just don't think that highly of him. The idea of Belton is great, but I've seen nothing that makes me feel like I can trust him. Really hope he proves me wrong this year.
Get a QB and keep getting that OL up to par and I'll be excited. Oh who am I kidding, it's the offseason, I'm still excited. Especially now that we will have someone with more mobility than a flagpole at QB.
I was on the ND board when Weis was really starting to struggle. They still thought every recruit, every player, and every game was as positive as can be. It was unreal. There was a complete criticism vacuum.
ND boards are just a different story. Idk what it is about Catholics lol.
You nailed it. Could not agree more. Coach O'Brien truely does not care about stars. He cares about intelligent, productive football players. There are loads of those on offense. So many young guys with breakout potential. This coach and this offense will allow many to realize that potential in a big way.
While I like the potential of the offense skill guys to go from a 29 ppg to a 35-40 ppg, three factors could pull the in the opposite direction:
1. Everyone has film on the O'Brien offense. You have to love the element of surprise in 2012. We converted on a number for improbable 4th and whatevers. But now that B1G coaches have a season to examine film, there will be new looks by opposing defenses.
2. Part of the projection is basing Stephen's or Tyler's progression on the same path as McGloin's. Every QB is different. I haven't seen enough of either. While I am confident in O'Brien's teaching ability, I can't yet sign off on projecting the new QBs along the same learning curve. I hope they do.
3. I want to see the defense get the opposing offenses off the field. We're losing several NFL-caliber drive killers on D. Will our plays per game drop from the NASCAR tempo to something closer to the 60s or 70s simply because opposing offenses will try to counter with clock management?
But, yea, I'm psyched for the skill player guys in the second year of a new system.
1. Meh. Nobody really had film on O'Brien's offense the beginning of 2012, but we still had two losses to start the year. Not really too concerned about it. Theoretically, there's about 10+ years worth of film on Urban Meyer's offense and they still do just fine.
2. The progression at QB is very key. McGloin reportedly worked his butt off to know the playbook, and given that he wasn't taking many class, had the time to do that. Personally, I think a possible lack of progression in the playbook may be offset by the new skills of our QB's. Both are more mobile, and look at what O'Brien ran when Bench was in the game against UVA - a lot of zone reads. Chances are that O'Brien will adjust the offensive playbook to best utilize the skills of whatever QB ends up starting. The other factor is experience. As bad as he was before O'Brien took over, McGloin still had the experience of playing at game speed against teams like OSU, Florida, etc. Not much substitute for that at this point.
3. I agree. I'm somewhat worried about the defense. We've got some guys who could be really good there, but some of them are unproven. Strangely, I think the secondary will be the strong point, barring a surge from some of our LB's (which is very possible with Vanderlinden coaching them).
Barring any injuries and solid QB play, I think we have a very solid offense. My main questions outside of who is starting at QB are:
1. A solid WR option (specifically WR since we have three proven TE) to complement Robinson to allow him to work against top tier competition. Can BMF continue to stretch te field, can Kenney blossom and learn how to change gears for deception and separation, will a guy like Geno or TW solidify themselves as a true first option?
2. I love option ZZ at running back, but will a healthy Belton create the dynamic aspect we were expecting last year? Will Lynch contribute at all because for now, he's solely a dirty show superstar?
I will say we have the potential, but there are still a lot of unknowns and unproven commodities on this side of the ball. I'm still optimistic and the homer in me is trying to contain my excitement or year two, but this is my tamed down opinion of my concerns.
Good coaching helps players progress. And we have elite coaching IMO. Valid concerns though. I just have faith and what I've seen from Fitz already, Im stoked... I think players in year two of their playbooks make strides. Huge strides... Everything hinges on the QB, which we all know. That is pretty much my only concern. BMF showed me a lot toward the end of the season, Williams is bigger, and Gino is getting rave reviews from the staff. You also have to think that Belton will be better in what will be ONLY his SECOND year playing RB... ZZ is even bigger than last year. Almost the entire line is back. The only question there is C... Does Diff shift over and Mangiro start? Does Shrive show he can start at one of the guard spots? Does Howle step up at C and let everyone stay where they are? Have you seen Gilliam lately? I know its a transition for him, but a lot to like. I get a lot of positive vibes... Not trying to be a homer either, but I've seen BOB do more with less... IMO, we get a solid showing from a QB, and we are just fine... The defense has more holes than the offense TBH.
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