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No one's attacking the work he does outside football. From all accounts he goes to class, will get his degree, and like you mentioned has a good heart and does fantastic charitable work. He just may not have the drive to be a successful college football player. Maybe it just hasn't clicked and this year he gets it. I've seen it before.
This post was edited by MTayl72 2 years ago
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i doubt his charity work is the problem...if the guy isn't gonna be a great football player, being a great human being and representing the football program well is a nice consolation....that being said id much rather him be both a great football player AND human being haha
Preach. Never insulted his intelligence or his caring about Lift for Life. Just his caring about getting better as a football player. I think just being on the team, coming from Scranton, PA is good enough for him. He made it and he is a rock star on PSU's campus. For some kids, that is enough. Sorry, but I don't want those kids on my team... At least as a scholarship athlete that I recruit heavily for. That is a waste of everyones time.
Why slam him for doing good? Let's just say he needs to get tougher on the field....fine. But his athletic struggles don't justify criticizing him for doing charity. C'mon man!
His work off the field is commendable. However, when you are brought into PSU as the #2 offensive lineman recruit in the country, on a full ride scholarship, more is expected. He is failing in his obligation to PSU football and the university. Please be reminded that he would not be at PSU doing charitable work if it were not for a football scholarship.
"I like your head, it's a good look." - James Franklin, to a bald reporter asking a question.
So, if he had been a random two star recruit who the staff offered a scholarship to, and he never cracked the two deep, but was great off the field, what would you say? If you would treat him the same way, then fine. If you think that those situations are different, then your premise is completely flawed.
He also wouldn't get the VIP treatment everywhere he goes... He would be Mike Wallace maybe? Still. Either he performs this year or he is gone... Both of them have make or break years. Period. What's your argument? Shrive. Put up or shut up time... That's it... Thats all.
And further, for everyone saying he doesn't work hard enough, please prove that. I've heard quite differently. Some kids just never get it, it's an unfortunate part of these kids getting overhyped, that they are pummeled if they never live up to expectations. As I said, I hope every bust does as well off the field as he has. The commit was well received by everyone. Looking back, if he never performs, was he worth the scholarship, obviously not. That said, 5 stars are the "least risky" and it looked like a great pickup. It looks like it may not turn out to be so; however, at least he did some great things for the university in the time he's been here, regardless of his on the field accomplishments.
My argument is there's no need to trash the kid, which has been done in this thread. He's a good kid and might never pick it up, oh well, it happens in recruiting.
Also, I love Mike Wallace. The kid is a true leader on the team and in the community.
I love Wallz too. But if he doesn't perform this year, he is not going to be asked back. And neither is Shrive.
This post was edited by rmj147 2 years ago
That's a nice deflection from my point. I agree with your point here, but it has nothing to do with what I said.
Everything that you interpret as "bashing" has been said time and time again by people having first hand experience with the kid. He needs to get his head out of his ass. Plain and simple...
The problem with Shrive is the 5 stars he had next to his name. People cannot separate potential from success. When it doesn't happen, there must be a reason deeper than "he's simply not a great player." That's just unfair. At least if he never lives up to the hype, he left PSU a much better place than when he came in because of his impact off the field. Many leave making little impact on or off the field. I'd love it if everyone could do both, but if I have to choose between a great player who's a punk or a bad player who does great things off the field, sign me up for the latter. Hopefully Shrive figures it out and can become a both guy. If not, I agree he should not be brought back for a fifth year. But I will not make baseless accusations about him.
They are not accusations! Ask anyone on the team. Or anyone that knows him and goes out with him. I know both...
I do too and have heard good things. But to be fair, I only knew him as a freshman, so I can't say much for anything after. Regardless, this whole "ask anyone" business rings hollow to me.
i have classes with him...he pays for his meals at cafe laura, never seen a teacher give him extra credit work....i havn't seen any of this vip treatment, most students don't know who he is.
It can ring hollow, but I don't wanna start any beef with teammates... Not going to say names... But basically he acts like he made it because he plays PSU football. He doesn't work as hard as others. Not saying "lazy" per se, but def not busting his butt... And he loves to get wasted. not just drunk... WAAAASTED. (I don't think that's really that big of a deal, hes in college and hes young. Live it up, but it adds to the stigma and his reputation of not working hard or taking it seriously enough.)
I wouldn't want you to name names, I think that would be unwise. Just saying, it's nothing I've heard and I talk with a few guys who were in his recruiting class regularly. Granted, I would never ask about it either, as I don't see much of a purpose. Just agree to disagree here as we're clearly not going to see eye to eye.
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