In partnership with CBSSports.com
Online Now 210
Online now 1373 Record: 7381 (3/13/2012)
Black shoes, basic blues. No names, all game
Buy, sell and swap tickets
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
It's like a dream has come true - we can go back to Pre-2004 nonsense. No more "Scare a Badger Wave a Towel" Or "Favorite Jersey Day" Or "70s Day" or non-stop "Lady Gaga" playing over the blue band.
Does this mean we can have the old scripted endzone back - get rid of the "Microphone Guy" and stop singing Sweet Caroline going into the 4th quarter down a myriad of points against a top-25 team like Alabama?
You do realize the Blue Band played Sweet Caroline way before Guido arrived. Not to mention, the students have complained about the "microphone guy" as far back as the 1990's.
What is your idea of a major league game presentation? Having the students throw marshmellows during pregame and then progressing to cup wars for the game?
back in the 80's it was marshmallows and then progressed to open mustard packs.
when i was a freshmen in 2002, those marshmallows were replaced with water bottles and full cups of soda.. after every touchdown you had to look back to make sure you didn't get pelted by something...
I went to a game with my roommate in 2002 - he got nailed by a full soda and never went back. I always thought it was funny, him.........not so much.
I understand people's frustration with Guido and share a lot of them. I think the problem is the presentation drifted to far to the rock music. But the students and many others love singing along to sweet Caroline etc...There needs to be a better balance between a traditional college football atmosphere and the event atmosphere Guido tried to impliment...He deserves some credit for making the white out a common theme in sports (yes I know Winnipeg did it for decades but we seemed to popularize it) also I think we may have been the first to use zombie nation in big time US sports and now its heard in every stadium/arena in the country. We still use the greatest show in college football tagline from SI, he deserves some credit for that but I also think it may have gone to his head.
If Guido was doing it, wrong how come every college and professional team in almost all sports are all doing what PSU does with their fans during games?
This post was edited by pipedope 2 years ago
Even worse is having a beer bottle launched and land a row behind you, exploding into a zillion pieces.
What I get down voted for speaking the truth?
Just because other teams may be doing it, doesn't make it "right"
FWIW: I didn't downvote you on it
It wasn't all bad, but the elimination of microphone guy would be outstanding. I too wish that there was more emphasis on the Blue Band and a little less on things like Zombie Nation (which many other schools are going now).
The real question I have is, does this mean that the ribbon and video screens will both be used properly now (scores for the ribbon and highlights/replays for the video screen)? Those two things piss me off more than anything else.
If I could live in a perfect world
1. No more microphone guy
2. The old end-zone scripted letters come back
3. 85% blue-band 15% piped in music. There are times for the piped-in (warm-ups for instance)
4. Ribbon is used for scores from around the league - not telling me to get one of those hotdogs or credit cards
White out creator? I didn't know he used to work for the Winnipeg Jets.
If I look over your requests, you are basically asking for PSU to move more towards a high school presentation and not a minor or pro team presentation. Other than the elimination of the microphone man and maybe more Blue Band, PSU is not going to eliminate or change the other items. The scoreboards (video and LDC boards) are going to be sold or incorporated into "PSU partnership packages" For example, as part of the UniMart deal they will get in game static sinage, 10 mentions on the LCD boards and one "in game" live promotion and six radio spots on the official PSU football broadcast.
As for the endzones, they usually go with the "marks" that PSU sells and makes money from. So, in theory, you see the mark in the enzone, you then think I need a new tshirt with that mark on it. In theory, that also drives the brand. I can't see PSU putting any logo on mark on the field that they can't trademark or make money from unless it is a Big Ten logo or mark that the league mandates.
My big complains are "Sweet Caroline" (zzzzz), "Mic Guy" (ugh), and "Living on a Prayer" (really? is that the right message?). Otherwise, I like the atmosphere. It's awesome when we're actually winning big games.
I also have the same complaint that someone else mentioned about the frustrating use (or lack there of) of the jumbotron, but from what I understand there are B10 rules with limits on what replays can or can't be shown.
While we are just airing all of our complaints about game-day can I want to put the following out there.
1) I loathe "Twist & Shout" or whatever it is they play exiting half-time
2) And my god does Living on a Prayer irk me to no end.
I'll admit the first time they played CCR when it was raining, I thought it was kind of cool. But it was before the game & the students were just kind of having a good time. But I don't need Journey or some crap band from Jersey to get me fired up.
Remember folks - the stadium expansion has helped keep the noise in. We don't need AAA baseball antics - we need the blue band, a passionate fan base and old people to realize it's acceptable to stand-up and yell on 3rd down
FWIW, from a student's perspective, Zombie Nation and "Living on a Prayer" are two of the best things about the game. It keeps students involved and interacting, and keeps those who don't understand football (typically of the female variety) paying attention.
If they go to all Blue Band stuff, the covers are important because, once again, it keeps those who don't know football that well in the game. People my age don't want to listen to fight songs for 4 quarters. We want to have more modern songs, with little dances involved with each for people to do so they don't get bored. I'm not saying I get bored, because I actually watch the game, but this is the case for the vast majority of students who are at the game.
The most important part of "game day atmosphere" is maintaining the home field advantage we have at Happy Valley, which means keeping the students fired up and ready to yell. I can't stand the mic guy, but the Zombie Nation kind of stuff keeps kids into the game. If anything, I'd stop the stupid Sandstorm tease they have, and actually play the damn song. Kids are always complaining when they stop it short because they want to jump around to it.
It may not be traditional, but if we are to keep the homefield advantage we need to make sure the students are fired up.
This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita 20 months ago
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
Realistically though, that won't ever happen.
The older fanbase doesn't want to stand up that often, and they rarely ever do it.
PSU is intimidating because the student section is nearly deafening, not because its a joint effort of the 65-year olds hanging out across from the S-Zone.
OMFG, SO TRUE!
Sandstorm is just about ready to DROP, and they cut it off! They cut it off literally at the WORST time. I would love to know who's bright idea that was.
Zombie Nation, Sandstorm, Blur Song 2, and the White Strips. Love all that at the game!
I get that people... err chicks... like singing "Living on a Prayer" and all, but save that for the G-Man after the game. You can't be playing a song called "Living on a Prayer" at a football game -- Unless it's for the OTHER team. I can't think of a more insulting song to play for our team.
Apparently they're worried about the structural integrity of the Beav, they don't think it can hold up to that many people jumping that often. I have no idea whether or not that's true, but that was the word that was passed along through the student section. TIFWIW.
The sing a longs can have a cool effect, especially when the cut the piped music and the student section is sober (or drunk) enough to keep it up. Knowing a few football players, I can tell you that they don't take it personally, and don't read that much into what the students are doing. As long as we're loud and having a good time, they're satisfied (with the student section).
any idea on who they will hire to replace Guido?
I think that was one of the biggest issues with Guido and a lot of his changes. He made it much more about the students than the rest of the fans. He wanted to engage them and get them more involved. That at times put him at odds with "old school" alum that were used to the same old, same old each and every game. Guido and Joe knew that a better, more involved student section would help transform the entire stadium.
Some if it reminds me of being a student at PSU and watching games at Rec Hall. Although our basketball teams while I were there ran from terrible to average, Rec Hall was still fun to me and my friends because we were basically on the floor and within an arms reach of the Fab 5 or Bobby Knight. We stood the entire game. We made a lot of noise. However, I remember we used to fight with the alum that sat in the seats behind us because they did not want to stand the entire game. To us, the alum were out of touch and did not understand that it was OUR school and we were helping the team, while they were hurting the team by wanting to sit down and golf clap from time to time or yell out "We are Penn State" at timeouts.
I'm student, so obviously I don't sympathize, but seeing the fans outside of the student section sitting the entire game and seemingly refusing to stand up on 3rd downs frustrates me to no end.
We're the reason our venue is intimidating, and its something I feel our alumni should take pride in. If people want to golf clap and listen to the band they should go to State College High games.
JMO, no disrespect intended to the older alumni.
I'm an alumni so obviously seeing fans sitting the entire game and refusing to stand up on 3rd down frustrates me to no end as well.
Believe me, there are fans that want to stand up and yell and cheer. But the second we do, old gradma or grandpa-blue yell and gripe to "sit down'" and "be quiet". Then they get an usher or complain to someone and we get told to sit down.
I'd love nothing more than to stand up the whole time or at least be able to stand up on 3rd and 4 and yell to my hearts content.
That's just the nature of the game now, unfortunately.
Unless there would be some sort of age limit, which is in no way legal or fair, there would be no way to control that. The old foagies should be grateful the students are as loud and active as we are, IMO.
I understand they make a lot of money of the ads on the scoreboards, but they could do a lot better job of showing scores from around the country. When I was at the OSU game this year, I was really impressed with them having a board committed to out of town scores.
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports