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Didn't say that I thought he would do it, but I would like him to. I think that the mainstream media by and large is crap. But you have a few, like Bilas, Maisel, Van Natta, that have been outspoken and have done their part to change the narrative. If Costas is as good a man as advertised, I think he could speak a few more times on the subject. He is a busy man, but I think that where he has the opportunity to do so, he will.
WE ARE! And we will always be...
I listened and laughed! Costas is a parsel-tongued jerk who should be ashamed of himself for his rush to judgment. He is too cowardly, and afraid of being branded as an apologist, to shout his NEW position from the rooftops. Sorry St Louis, but he picked a back water of sports to parsel-mouth his latest. He made his big points with his original spouting. If one listens closely to his interview with Slayton, he never once spears himself as a jerk as he should have. He chooses his words very carefully so that he may back pedal again if necessary.
You are right about that. With that said, at least he was willing to take another look at it and state where he was wrong. On the other hand those on the BOT, who are supposed to defend the University, did the exact same thing but refused to admit they were wrong.
This all changes nothing.........
I work for a company that went through the media wringer unjustly and have yet to hear anyone in the media say they were wrong after we were vindicated.
THIS will be no different. A positive court ruling trumps all the blowhards, puts them in backpedal mode, and puts PSU in a position where it rightfully belongs.
My concern is where has he been? He read the reports awhile ago and has yet to espouse his NEW position in a national venue, nor will he most likely. We can only hope because this guy could do a lot to repair the damage he helped build.
Nicely put, RMJ.
He is not going to promote our cause no doubt. However, it is positive to have some mainstream media people change their tunes. If more and more of them do maybe the narrative will slowly change.
But we have more allies on the sanctions side of things. In reality they are all that matter. What OSU, WVU, Rutgers, ND, etc... fans or non-sport fan elitists think of us doesn't matter. They will always be happy the great Joe Paterno was disgraced and/or football was to blame.
Golic is an imbecile. His simple mind can't comprehend there are shades of grey in this world. He sees the whole thing through his Irish colored glasses. You'd have a better discussion arguing with a wall.
The only worse homer than him on air is that D-Bag Mark May and his irrelevant Pitt program.
We shouldn't concern ourselves with either of their opinions nor worry about what they say.
Costas coming around is a great start, but we need more. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
This is the same Costas that all of a sudden went rogue with his Sunday Night Football Gun comments. He now is seen in the media as someone who is losing their mind.
This helped nothing. Had anyone really ever heard of Kevin Slaten until the PSU thing? I know I haven't and most outside of STL and outside of PSU still haven't.
So completely agree. It used to be that Golic was this annoying voice that I would hear off and on but I could deal with it. Anymore, he just sounds ridiculous and it doesnt matter what topic he is discussing, PSU or other. I just never seem to agree with him and he just gets loud. Quite annoying.
I have XM radio. Anyone have good suggestions for morning shows?
Comcast owns NBC Universal, can our philly ties help get the story out there on nbc?
+1 Thanks for the reminder on the Costas gun rant and your post is spot on.
"I like your head, it's a good look." - James Franklin, to a bald reporter asking a question.
Yeah, that's just not true. While I don't like the way he ranted on SNF, he's still one of the most respected people in sports media.
How about Costas blames himself for simply doing a poor job of journalism without getting the facts, instead of the Olympics and staffers?? Nobody asked Costas for his opinion on the PSU matter, nor is he in some position where he couldn't simply say, "I need to read the report before concluding."
Typical media backtracking by blaming others for jumping to conclusions. Don't get me wrong, great he now wants to see the light...but still doesn't change my opinion he's just like the others.
Not defending Costas, because I think that he committed a horrible act of Journalism in regard to his original statement. However, he was brought on the Today show with the intent of him discussing the issue with Lauer.
I agree that if I was in the field, before I gave my opinion on something of such gravity that I would decline until I had the opportunity to read/digest all available information, but its the horrible twisted nature of our 24 hour news cycle.
I write for my organizations weekly digest and I refuse to make claims that I can not support until I have information to support it.
I listen to Bill King in the morning. Channel 91 I believe. Fitz and other 247 beat guys do guest spots on it, and national guys like JC and Gerry Hamilton appear frequently. Right now its all about hoops so I find myself going other places till April. But once basketball ends, its all about college football and recruiting.
Not doubting your opinion is worth more than my opinion but can you souce anything that says he is still one of the most respected people in sports media?
Because a quick google search can tell you there were plenty of people who said he wasn't after his rant.
If you have a source then fine, you can say...Yeah, that's just not true. If you don't have a source you are basically saying you opinion means more than others.
Nice. Thanks for the tip. I need to get away from the mothership on my commute.
To avoid turning this thread into a political thread, I will say I disagree. My opinion does not mean more than yours, but he is not widely viewed as "losing his mind" as you asserted. I'm sure plenty of people lost respect for him. He made a mistake, it was not the proper forum for his comments, and he admitted to that.
Every show he goes on these days, the people speaking with him always mention "admiring" Costas or the "respect" they have for him. Please, listen to his recent national interviews (not on news stations, but on sports stations, which is the "sports media" that I specifically mentioned in my post) and see that people say great things about him. Listen to Greeny gush over him at the beginning of this interview from a few weeks ago (linked below). He's still very well respected in sports. Sure that's an opinion, and it's no more or less valid than yours, but I am very confident that if you polled sports people they would say he's well respected and not "losing his mind."
And here at the 11 minute mark of a different interview saying "I can't imagine that there's a bigger sportscaster in the world."
NBC Sports' Bob Costas comments on the legacies of LeBron James and Michael Jordan, player safety in the NFL, the future of football and more.
Bob Costas talks Curtis Granderson's injury, the Knicks' close win over the 76ers, and Darrelle Revis as potential trade bait. Plus, a discussion on the Academy Awards.
This post was edited by shavisimo2 13 months ago
Agreed. The people who really spoke out against him were the people that disagreed with his point politically. Others thought maybe he should have chosen a different time to speak out, but that's all.
Thank you. I truly do appreciate those links and now see your side of the issue. I honestly thought you were just being arrogent with your first line of the last post.
I wasnt calling you out personally. Just a general post.
Not trying to beat this into the ground but I dont understand why you think Costas should speak a few more times on the subject. Are you just wishing that he would to help our cause or do you think that he owes us that?
I wish he would speak out too. That would be great. But if he doesn't that's his choice too. He isn't an ambassador for PSU. Just a guy with an opinion.
You're right though, if he is given the opportunity, I think he will give his opinion on the situation, and we know now that it is on the side of PSU.
This post was edited by NevadaNittany 13 months ago
BacardiBuckeye: "But in all honesty I like Penn State, I want to see Penn State do good that's why I check this board everyday." 4/2/14
Costas adding his voice is big on root to getting to a sort of critical mass in turning the tide.
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