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Here is the link for Slaten's live stream. They report he is on from 3:00-6:00CST so thats 4:00-7:00EST
I know what you mean, I hate having to rely on people who have previously piled on. Unfortunately, we're not really in a position to hold grudges when it comes to titans of the industry.
Costas has slowly been evolving a bit on this issue. I remember him starting with Joe Posnanski's interview. He seemed like he wanted to be convinced that the narrative was wrong. Maybe after reviewing the Freeh Report again, in conjunction with subsequent reports countering it, he will see that there is potential for a false narrative.
Slaten knows this case inside and out. I would expect those two would have an excellent dialogue on it.
Another poster previously asked, but I didn't see a response. For those who have listened to Slaten, do we know if they will definitely discuss PSU? With them both having St Louis roots, he could easily be having him on to discuss the Cardinals or something.
Everyone put themselves in another position...take Joe and PSU out of this whole thing.
My goodness I was a rabid dog when the OSU guys were getting free tats. I only relied on mainstream media for my information as well. I would have just shrugged it off as goofy had someone said there was other options becausde the way they forced fed the first option how reliable could the second be?
I live in StL and have listened to Slaten many times on my drive home. I'd say the chances of them talking Cardinals baseball or anything else not related to small talk or PSU, are basically zero. He has to have been dying to come back on the air and discuss the Freeh/NCAA criticism.
Before Slaten got fired, he said that Costas agreed to come on his show and discuss the Freeh report with him once he had a chance to sit down and read it. I don't know if it's the only thing they'll talk about, but I'm sure it won't be glossed over.
For anyone able to listen any updates would be appreciated. I can't access from my phone.
Costas saying he landed in London for the Olympics as the Freeh report was released and was told by phone that the Freeh report was "credible," in his conclusions.
He based his opinion on that at the time.
Says he gives Slaten a lot of credit for reading it first and refuting it. Costas says he now has read it (and Thornburg's and the other "Paterno" reports")and says Slaten's questions are legitimate.
Says the Freeh report amounts to an indictment, and everyone is entitled to their day in court.
Paterno will never have that day in court, unfortunately.
Says none of the principals weren't interviewed.
Criticized the "hundreds of people interviewed" and says it's like doing a report on the Patriots and not interviewing Brady, Belichek, or Kraft but interviewing the guy who runs the elevator. - (hilarious).
Says it was a leap for Freeh to assign motivations.
Says every responsible person should have doubt and want to hear both sides of the story.
Says Joe wasn't as "sharp" and perhaps if he was, he could've done more, etc. etc. Said Joe could've had a more active curiosity about what was going on. Says Joe didn't live up to his own "Joe Paterno standard," but that that is a "farcry from knowing kids were being abused and was knowingly and willingly acting in a coverup. There is insufficient evidence to support ."
This is good stuff.
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Not a great at recaping, Costas has completely flipped his stance.
He blamed his Olympics requirements and a low-level staffer at the Today Show for his original support of the Freeh Report.
Still thinks Paterno should have seen something more due to his sharpness and status. He, however, thinks that Freeh's assertions are based in insufficient evidence to think Joe was involved in a coverup. He compared the Freeh report to doing a study on the Patriots and not talking to the coaches, players or owner and instead interview the bus driver.
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LOL, Vinny Richichi would probably decline an invitation to return as well. I thought that tub of lard was going to cry when Slaten finished with him
Sad to say that most people have based their opinions of those in the media who probably never read the report. Good that he came out now but sad that he can call himself a journalist.
Slaten now ripping the Penn State BOT for preventing Paterno to have his press conference before he passed and threatening to harm his severance package if he did.
Now talking about why Freeh took so long to interview Joe when they knew he was terminally ill.
Costas says he asked Sandusky if Joe ever acted different towards him after 2001 or confronted him or offered him counseling. Sandusky said no. - (This is in relation to the question as to how people like McQ and Joe could continue on if McQ actually saw/said rape.)
Slaten calls vacating of Joe's wins "juvenile."
Costas says it's possible that the sanctions can be reduced. "Governor has filed suit... there will be responses (not sure if he's talking about other lawsuits or what)"
Now they're criticizing Emmert.
Costas recounts speaking with Posnanski. Says "Posnanski was 'pilloried' for going 'too soft' on Joe for not concluding that he was in a cover up. People are so repulsed that they feel that anything short of a blanket condemnation of anyone involved is seen as insufficient." "Damn them all," so to speak. Costas says that isn't fair.
Slaten talks about visiting Sue Paterno and says he got the sense that all they want is the truth. That he trusts the Paternos. They are now talking about how Penn State had such a great reputation and record in the NCAA and how Joe had a long-standing reputation for acts of concern towards young people, former players as people, high standards, etc.
Costas says "in retrospect, Joe 'screwed up,' but it's hard to believe that a man like Joe Paterno, if confronted with the basic facts of how terrible Sandusky was, would be concerned with covering it up. Costas says that defies everything that Joe is.
Now the famous "if it was a cover up, it was a pretty lousy cover up since up to 14 people knew in a short matter of time." - Costas.
Now talking about how CPS, DPW, TSM, etc. never sensed this or acted.
They hope that now more people will be more aware of these activities and have their guards up. "What we learn from people in this field, is that these guys are master deceivers, create a certain impression about themselves. They are not the guys in the trench coats hiding in the bushes."
There ya have it folks. Made for a very good discussion. Hope it's online later.
Man that's good stuff. I hope Costas uses his show to go over it. Thanks for the recap.
Thanks RWC, you did a much better job than I could have!
That's the least he can do based on the fact he helped shape the narrative.
Costas is a good start. Need more to join in
I was OP but didn't get to listen as I'm stuck at work so much thanks to Lion_in_Cbus and RWC for the recaps! Looking forward to listening to the podcasts tonight or tmrw.
Someone with Twitter should tweet Mike and Mike. Greeny worships Costas, and Golic respects the heck out of him. Even if they just give it a few minutes, that's a bigger audience than Slaten is getting.
“We need to keep this (expletive) together,” Mauti and Zordich to Hill
I believe that many months ago on these boards, the consensus was that a big name in sports broadcasting needed to flip in order to get the other side out there. The consensus was that if Costas was the "one" who flipped, it would begin a snowball effect in changing the public narrative.
I think this is the beginning and more momentum will be the result.
October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
Here's a link to the Costas interview by Slaten: https://soundcloud.com/fortyeight-fourteen/costas-on-slaten
It was a decent listen. They probably talked about it for 20-25 minutes. I find it unsettling that someone of Costas' reputation would allow someone else to summarize the Freeh report to him so he could then talk about it. I'm a journalist and I would never report or speak about something without having first-hand knowledge of it. For Costas to do so is severely irresponsible. That said, he did amend his thoughts about the report after reading it. I thought Slaten was easier on Costas than he was past guests when Costas repeatedly said that JoePa could have or should have done more to live up to his own moral standards. In the past people that have said that on Slaten's show were ripped a new one by Slaten. "He told the head of the Penn State police!" or "if Paterno got more involved he could have jeopardized the investigation!" Slaten would scream. Of course we all know Slaten and Costas are pals so he wasn't going to rip him. It is good for Penn State that someone like Costas is questioning the Freeh report and has now admit that he spoke about the Freeh report without even reading it at first.
The Q is, how vocal will Costas be about this... After he admitted he was totally wrong? IMO he should go out and talk about how he feels now that he is knowledgable about it... That is the only way that he can make up for his past mistake. It's cute that he acknowledges the error in his past judgment, but it means absolutely nothing if he can't reach the masses with his new found knowledge and truth. There is a lot of harm that he and others like him did, and there is much to be done to reverse it, or even make a dent in the damage... JMO though
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WE ARE! And we will always be...
You guys that think that Bob Costas owes going to a larger media and discuss his feelings on the Sandusky situation are crazy, to put nicely.
He said what he had to say, that's that. If it comes up in another conversation, tv show, radio, you know how he stands now. But to think he now needs to discuss this and "apologize" for his quick initial reaction is just silly.
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BacardiBuckeye: "But in all honesty I like Penn State, I want to see Penn State do good that's why I check this board everyday." 4/2/14
I'm certainly not holding my breath that he'll go on a tour around the country saying he misspoke at first, but if he wants to hold himself as a higher power when he made his statements about Penn State shortly after the Freeh report than he should do the same now. Will he? Doubtful. But going on Slaten's show is a step in the right direction, albeit a small step.
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