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anyone else frustrated by watching FGCU? Here's a school that didn't even exist until 1991, that no one probably heard of outside of florida until last week, that plays in a state with about 13 other D1 schools, yet can field a team that is more fun to watch than any Penn State squad I have seen.
Julian Moore has tons of length. Chambers system will never have a team full of bigs, we will be built like Nova.
He's not even in the building yet. And it was a HUGE get for us. Huge. The Q really is, how many quality minutes will Moore be able to give us next year as a freshman? Are you counting on him to start and play the bulk of the minutes? Will the Jack kid rebound for his injury in time to be the starter? Will the big kid that's been on the roster a couple years that has hardly played to this point, have the light come on and be ready to contribute majorly? In my OP here, I said the Jack kid, the other kid that's been on the squad (who's name is escaping me), and Moore will be counted on. But watching this year, as I said, we had NO quality length. The kids with length were never on the floor. Hopefully they are ready this coming year... If Ross Travis or the Taylor kid (an undersized, stretch 4) is your C, you have a problem. If Moore is ready, we will be much improved (in addition to getting Frazier back).
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by rmj147 13 months ago
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Not sure if Moore will be ready. He might be the best center on the roster, but he wont be ready to compete in the Big 10 or be a big time contributor. If he can play good defense, rebound and finish around the rim I give him a good amount of minutes. I don't think Graham or Ackerman can give us anything and Jack isn't a center. We will be playing small most of the time next year, but we have great guards and can stretch the floor so we should be able to be pretty good.
1) dominant big are few and far between. But, there are plenty of guys with talent. And yes, you do need talent on the front court to go along with a talented back court.
2) big name coaches recruit better players. Go look at the top 100 and tell me the teams that consistently are getting those top commitments. Yes there are always top kids that committ to lesser programs, and yes, there are always coaches that win with less talent. But those are exceptions to the rule.
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Everyone just needs to understand just how far way we are from being a consistently good program. Chambers is doing a great job both on the court and in recruiting. We are getting better players than we have before. We need to be patient and let Chambers really build this program up, he is the man for the job and will make us a better program. Next year will be a huge year, we need to take that next step and show recruits that the program is taking positive steps.
I agree with this. As I said in my OP here. Chambers needs time and IS the right guy. No disagreement here.
It wouldn't have hurt to have had Trey Burke either. He committed to PSU in spring 2010 and then decommited in fall 2010, the same season we went to the NCAA tourney.
As a longtime follower of PSU hoops, Burke, Gerry McNamara, and Matt Carroll were the three potential program-changing players that just barely slipped away from PSU.
This post was edited by Cambria Nittany 13 months ago
Yeah if Ed would have stayed we could have Burke, Frazier, and Trey lewis.
Burke decommitted while Ed was still coach.
Ed should have been gone, long before he left. Chambers is a major upgrade, plain and simple.
My bad thought it was after, not trying to say I miss Ed!
I understand how far away PSU is. They are at best one more year away but most likely two full seasons away. Chambers is doing an ok job recruiting. He still isn't par with the big boys. As I see it, the best PSU will be in the next two seasons is NIT. I just don't see them making a run at NCAA tourney just yet.
PSU is not a basketball school, never has been. It will take more than a few decent transfers and few decent recruits to be able to compete with the big boys throughout a full BIG conference slate. So hopefully they make a nice run at the NIT next year and kids start to take notice. Then maybe Chambers will be able to pull a McDonald's all American or a couple blue chip recruits to get this team over the hump.
I'd say he's doing better than just an ok job. PSU will never compete with the big boys for recruits, we just don't have the history to do so. If we start winning though I guarantee you Chambers will take his recruiting to another level.
Guys, McGary was a top 30 player nationally. We're not there yet. I agree that we need serviceable bigs. Andrew Jones was not highly recruited nor was he dominant but he was serviceable along side Jeff Brooks and DJ. That's the type of 4/5 we need--and even he isn't on this roster yet--but we're not getting the McGary's of the world yet.
Ryan Kelly was a top 20 player nationally. Take your sights off of the Floridas and Syracuses of the world for a bit. Even Butler's recruiting is out of our league. We need to win and have some success first because we can land these guys. Maybe WuShock's talent is on our level recruiting wise, but you're getting my point I hope. All of these guys you see that you don't think are great but "good enough" bigs that PSU should be able to get--yea, they're top 50 recruits in their own right.
I agree with this too. The biggest difference between this year's team and the NCAA team was shooting/scoring ability--NOT post play.
We just need to find someone who plays as hard as he does. I guess we can't expect top 30 players,he just plays with so much effort he would be perfect for chambers.
1) Yes there are guys with talent. In the time that Chambers has been coach, he's recruited Jack and Taylor (should both be quality forwards) and Moore and Banks (Center and combo-Forward). He's only been around two years, let's give him a chance. He inherited a roster with no quality forwards at all and he's working on getting guys who can play the post. But he's not forcing kids out and he's not getting one-and-done's even if he wanted a quick fix.
2) Yes, bigger name coaches get better players in general. But it's the chick and the egg question. For example, Steve Alford is heading to UCLA. He's done NOTHING remarkable as a coach yet (and is a first class jerk/slimball) but his name carries a lot of weight. Will he recruit well at UCLA? YES. Is it because it's UCLA or because of his name? Both, but hard to say definitively. Still, I'd rather have Chambers than any Steve Alford type of coach. And if we're not getting the Steve Alfords of the coaching world, who could we get if we moved on for Pat??? No one that I'd trust to "do it the right way". Tubby? Hell no. We're in good hands with Chambers, but it's not a quick fix. And when he's done, he WILL BE A "BIG NAME" COACH.
Incorrect, Burke decommitted while Ed was still coach and we replaced Burke with Lewis. Lewis didn't want to play hard and play by Pat's rules, so go pound sand Trey.
Just out of curiosity, why not Tubby?
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