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I think 60 mil can buy several "prestigious" firms.
you are correct, he has said both now...that he did talk to erickson about a 4 year ban...and originally that it was never discussed. I'm surprised nobody has ran with that blatant contradiction
October 12, 2013. PSU 43 - UM 40 (4 OT). Unfortunately this fan wasn't around long enough to see it!
Whether he charges PSU or not, nothing is ever (well almost) done for free, there is always a monetary decision behid it. But that would be nice.
Does Terry Pegula have a relationship with Paul Kelly via the Sabres and/or PSU hockey from Kelly's time with the NHLPA and/or College Hockey Inc?
Edit: And how might they be connected to McCombie?
This post was edited by helpdesk 23 months ago
Hmm. Maybe we have a winner here. Wouldn't surprise me if a big booster is leading this fight.
Actually that is a f*cking fantastic observation/question.
You have to figure Terry isn't to happy with his program founding $88 million donation getting slammed underneath NCAA sanctions.
Correct or not, nice observation for a possibility.
If so, Pegula = (ok, he already does getting the Hockey goin haha)
Suck It Emmert!! and "Sorry for not being sorry for being a Penn Stater" - Philafan
This seems like a thoughtful, mature response. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
I can't believe this clown hasn't been banned yet.
I think you're overestimating positive public opinion of PSU at this point in time.
Maybe so, but there have been some reporters saying the sanctions were too severe. You never know what may happen, and IMO it's worth a shot.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Andrew Dzurita 23 months ago
Why should we have to go to class if we came here to play FOOTBALL, we ain't come to play SCHOOL, classes are POINTLESS
The case of Tim Cohane could actually help set precedence in PSU's favor if it actually gets to a Federal level:
"In a 1988 case, N.C.A.A. vs. Tarkanian (yes, that’s Jerry Tarkanian, the infamous former University of Nevada at Las Vegas coach), the Supreme Court ruled that the N.C.A.A. was not a “state actor.” A state actor is a legal term for any institution that acts as an arm of the government — and is, therefore, subject to constitutional mandates like due process. Since then, the N.C.A.A. has waved the “we’re-not-a-state-actor” flag whenever it’s been sued for violating someone’s rights. Since it’s not a state actor, it argues, its members have no constitutional rights.
The most egregious was that SUNY-Buffalo officials had threatened to strip the school’s basketball players of their eligibility unless they implicated Cohane. Graduating seniors, whose eligibility had expired, were told that they wouldn’t graduate if they didn’t point the finger at Cohane. The N.C.A.A. knew that players were being coerced to lie — and did nothing to stop it. Indeed, those lies became part of its report. Years later, a number of players submitted affidavits as part of the Cohane lawsuit, saying they had never seen their former coach do anything wrong but had been pressured to implicate him.
Naturally, the N.C.A.A. responded by trying to get the case tossed out on the grounds that it was not a state actor. The trial judge agreed. But, in 2007, the appeals court overruled that decision and said that because the N.C.A.A. had acted in concert with the university — which, as a state-run school, is undeniably a state actor — it, too, could be considered a state actor. The N.C.A.A. then appealed to the Supreme Court, to no avail."
As a basketball coach fights for his reputation, college sports may have to change its ways.
This post was edited by BayernLion 23 months ago
I don't think that PSU could argue that the NCAA conspired with PSU (making them a state actor) on these sanctions and therefor, they should be thrown out.
Bayern - that's very interesting, thanks for posting it.
There actually seem to be some parallels between that case and the PSU case, since the Freeh Report was commissioned by a "state actor" (PSU) and then used by the NCAA. Similar to the report both Buffalo and the NCAA used to get Cohane fired.
Maybe Erickson knew what he was doing by not informing the board and signing the contract. After all remember he did have Gene Marsh (former chairman of the NCAA's infractions committee) with him during these negotiations and Karen Peetz, the chairwoman of the board. Maybe this planned from the beginning!! Just my 2 cents.
(1) Freeh report was our doing, so potential state actor.
(2) I only see 3-4 private school presidents on the Board of Directors of the NCAA. So, the actions were taken in conjunction with a number of different public (state) schools.
This post was edited by psume06 23 months ago
But the agreement was between PSU and the NCAA. Like I said, I don't think that you can argue that this should be overturned because PSU was conspiring against itself, especially if the vast majority of it's current leadership doesn't back the lawsuit.
Why are you using the word "conspiring"? All the NCAA needs to do is act in concert with PSU. Which, by using the Freeh report, it did.
I don't think the percentage of board members supporting the lawsuit has any bearing on whether the NCAA was a state actor or not.
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