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Would likely mean PSU, OSU and UM in one division with Nebraska, Wisky and Iowa in the other. If Nebraska doesn't play in the conference championship game 3 out of every 4 years then Pelini, or whoever is in charge at the time, needs to be fired (if this ends up happening).
This would be further proof that OSU and UM truly run the conference. Competitive balance loses out to protecting the sanctity of "the game". It's absurd.
This post was edited by An Actual Lion 18 months ago
By the way, I was reading on ESPN that Joyner said he hadn't heard from many people who disliked the current division names. So if like me you think they are terrible, send him an email saying so: email@example.com
"When the Leaders and Legends were first announced, people were like, 'What the heck does that mean?'" said Penn State athletic director Dave Joyner. "I think people are starting to learn it, though. … I don't hear much from fans writing in and saying, 'You've got to change the names now,' or anything like that."
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I haven't read the link but does it say if MSU will be in the west division? If so, competitive balance really isn't bad. Sure they aren't perennially elite by any means, but they will compete with wiscy and the huskers for division titles.
Not unless RichRod is going back to Michigan. Michigan and Ohio State will clean up recruiting in Michigan and Ohio for the foreseeable future (although I think we'll have our share of success there after the sanctions). Iowa seems like they're ready for a decade or so of mediocrity until Ferentz leaves (similar to PSU from the late 90's onwards). Wisconsin won't invest in their football program so they will soon be back to a 7 or 8 win team that has a good year every so often. Nebraska should dominate that division.
Yeah, MSU is competitive every now and then, but hardly a consistent power like OSU or Michigan. Wisconsin...who knows what will happen to them now with nearly the entire staff gone again and a new HC. I'd hate those divisions, personally, but whatever.
That's bc we know dave joyner wouldn't do anything to change it, we're all suprised he still has a job..
do we have to have divisions to have a championship? why can't we schedule like we did before nebraska and have the top two teams play it out for the crown. that would solve competative balance and always make the championship game compelling..
8 game conference schedule
3 team protected rivals (meaning play every year)
Other 5 teams rotate every 2 years..
New idea... Do Big Ten North and South. Look at the map.
North: Mich, MSU, NW, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minn, Neb
South: PSU, OSU, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, RU, Maryland
Edit: Or just have the imaginary diagonal line that I talked about before with East and West...
East: Mich, OSU, PSU, Purdue, Indiana, Maryland, RU
West: MSU, NW, Illinois, Wiscy, Iowa, Minn, Neb
With the E/W split, each big team has a crossover rivalry... We have Neb, OSU has Wiscy, and Mich has MSU. NW and Illinois "rivalry" is in tact and a lot of other regional rivalries are renewed/created with us playing RU and Maryland... Plus we have Indiana and Purdue as cupcakes.
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WE ARE! And we will always be...
Nebraska doesn't recruit like an elite program and not being in the Big 12 will make it harder for them to pull Texas players. Wisconsin, MSU, and Iowa have fanbases of similar size. Nebraska has had a lot, a whole lot, more success historically than those other teams, but I don't see them being dominant in that division at all. In fact, I don't see Nebraska being dominant on the level they once were ever again.
This divisional breakup puts the 3 major Big 10 programs in one division: by far the 3 largest fanbases, highest TV ratings, and recruiting potential. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not, though, I do like the idea of playing OSU and Michigan every year. But, putting the only programs in the Big 10 that can recruit at a top 10/15 level on a consistent basis--assuming they aren't crippled by an 80 year old or sanctions--might not be the best thing for competitive balance over the long haul.
The Big 10 is obviously going to expand again in a few years, so it makes no sense to shift things a lot right now. IMO, they should just move Illinois and another bottom feeder to the Legends division and add MD and RU to the Leaders division.
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Or just add UMD and RU to ours and push Illinois and Purdue to the other one. But then Prince Michigan and Prince Ohio State might play twice a year....Oh the humanity!!!
I prefer OSU and Michigan in the same division. Last thing I ever want to see is them play at the end end of the regular season and then again in the BCG. That would suck. PSU should be good enough to beat them both in any given year. If not, I don't really care about some second place honorary bs ranking based on the fact that we beat everybody in the crappy division
been saying all along michigan an osu should be in same division.
How do tie breakers work for division title? If PSU Michigan and Ohio state all have one loss and won their other games. What breaks the tie?
He hasn't heard anything huh? I'm guessing that's because he's just been outright ignoring the entire alumni base since he was put into the AD position.
That, and the fact that we've had a lot bigger problems to deal with besides shitty division names would most likely be why 'ol Dave hasn't heard anything.
He continues to be an embarrassment to himself and our university on a regular basis.
Agreed. The B1G set this up so that the two could play in the final week and then possibly play again in the conference championship game the very next week. Stupid!
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
Its hard to hear anything when his own head is shoved up his ass...
I think it goes by highest ranking, I think it should be highest graduation rate
Not sure about your comment regarding Nebraska. Bo Pel is an ordinary coach. As long as he is there, I don't think that program dominates anything.
Not only should competitive balance between the divisions matter, but the set of games which each program is locked-in to also need to be competitively balanced. The latter is a major reason why Michigan and Ohio State initially went into separate divisions.
michigan and ohio state are in seperate divisions because delaney has a woody at the thought of osu-michigan in back to back weeks
It goes like this:
1. Record against each other (if one beat both the others, that one is the champ)
2. Division record
3. Record against against next highest placed team(s) in order, i.e. teams 4, 5, 6
4. Highest BCS ranking (unless teams are within one place of another)
5. Overall record (not counting exempt games)
6. Pick from a figurative hat.
If one team gets eliminated along the way, the champ is the winner of the game between the remaining two.
It's much more complicated than that - see above.
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