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At 9 a.m. ET Sunday on ESPN, "Outside the Lines" will convene an exclusive panel composed of authors of the new report to discuss their review of the Freeh report and their assessment of the NCAA's actions. The Paterno family's response to the Freeh report will officially be released to the public at 9 a.m. Sunday on paterno.com.
I know a lot people hate ESPN but there isn't a better media for getting this report out to the public than ESPN. I hope this gets the attention it deserves and the findings are legit and backed with facts.
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Sadly even if this report is more concise and logical than the loopy freh report, people will just dismiss the evidence and call the report farcical. I think most already have their mind made up and nothing is going to change their opinion now, if anything, people would get annoyed that the paterno's won't go away..
IMO, what I hope this does is force others to keep digging and expose the other people who allowed this to happen.. If those people start being accused and taken to court or even convicted of crimes, people will start to get off joes back.. Also, a lot is to be learned from Curley, spannier, and Shultz trials whenever that happens..
yeah, unfortunately, becasue it came from the Paternos, people will dismiss this report before ever having read it.
Before concluding that this will all be dismissed, consider the sources that authored the report, their resumes, and their prior relationship (or lack thereof) to PSU and the Paterno's. It is this fact that makes their findings compelling.
Look, all you need to do is go on CBS sports' blog on Sue Paterno's family to release report and see the ignorance that is out there. I have been arguing all morning with the rest of the world. We are the only people who believe he didn't cover it up, period. Even if a 1000 reports said otherwise, the damage is done.
I dont disagree that the findings, whatever they end up being, will be compelling and likely actually based in fact, unlike the Freeh Report. However, in my view, the general public just does not care. They have their story. The one perpetuated by the national media for the better part of a year and a half, and they certainly are not ready to let actual facts get in the way of a story.
Despite the fact that this is, as it appears on the surface at least, to be an unbiased, fact laden review, the fact that it was paid for by the Paternos will just cause the mass populous "sheep" to shake their heads and say "of course" this is what this report says. I hope I am wrong, but most people will never read either this report or the Freeh Report and use their brains to come to a reasoned conclusion about what did or didnt happen. The story in their eyes, is the slam job the media started long ago. Again, I hope beyond hope that people do take the time to use independent thought and look at facts. I also hope that national media types.....I am looking at you ESPN, et. al., actually take the time to accurately educate the populous, but I will believe it when I see it. Here is to hoping..... We Are!!
Fair enough. Let's put it another way - hater's gonna hate.
We are going to find a report that basically sums up what we "Paterno supporters" already know. That the Freeh report was biased, erroneous, irresponsible, and reckless even though the Executive Summary was taken at face value by the public.
This rebuttal is written by people with impeccable credentials. They are staking their reputations on this rebuttal. At the very least, this report will solidify the Penn State family with the knowledge that we are right and the hating, misinformed portion of the public is wrong. At best, it brings up a ton of questions for Freeh and the NCAA that they will have a tough time answering.
I think with regard to this point.....you and DrKen22 are both completely correct. Hater's going to hate and this will be information that we as Staters have been looking for.
You are absolutely right. Hater's gonna hate.
This report isn't going to persuade the Pitt and Ohio State fans out there that have always hated PSU and Paterno to change their minds, nor will it silence the shock jocks like Dan Bernstein that have no regard for facts. It may though cause more informed fans to at least moderate or nuance their views, if not change their minds outright, and hopefully some of the more respected journalists at least report this side of the story and give it a couple days discussion, if not outright admit they were wrong initially.
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Its just my opinion but I believe the only way you will change peoples views on this topic is if 60 minutes or Dateline did a story on this (from the Paterno side.) I just don't think the ESPN crowd cares anymore. They have already made up there minds one way or another. With that said, I'm hoping something good comes tomorrow.
Exactly. The haters are going to hate and immediately disregard the report. The report will be red meat to the die-hard PSU fans. But the report is not about appealing to either of those poles. It is about winning the middle ground -- people that read newspapers and Sports Illustrated rather than just hearing sound bites on sports radio -- and hoping that someone like a Bob Costas or Bob Ley runs with the report, or that 60 Minutes or the Washington Post gives it some weight with a feature segment.
Obviously we have not seen the OTL yet, but I really do hope that legitimate reporters/news sources take an accurate, unbiased reporting of this.
I think we are all saying the same thing. Opinions have been formed regardless of anything that comes out now or in the future.
We all want Paterno exonerated and people to again realize how important of a person he was for many individuals. But it is like politics. You are either red or blue. And in this case, you either believe the Freeh report or you don't. Unfortunately, I cannot see anything that will change things.
The Bot screwed Paterno, the University, and the fans.
And there is the rub. Thanks BOT
Let me rephrase something you say here: "And in this case, you either decide to take Freeh's executive summary at face value, or you decide to educate yourself with facts".
I like to deal in the "Law of Thirds". There is probably a third of the population that are pro PSU, a third indifferent that could be convinced one way or the other, and a third that no matter the facts would never buy it. Don't worry about the bottom third, hopefully the middle third will be moved to a pro position.
Public opinion is important, but the real issue is what hopefully happens in the courts.
Frankly, if this can help us get the sanctions thrown out, that's all I care about, F everyone else that wants to be ignorant about it.
Hey maybe Joe's new greatest supporter , Ken Frazier will now throw his weight behind this. Or...
I could be mistaken but I think you've got this all wrong. I think it's just a coincidence that the Paterno family is release their report at the same time that the OTL episode on the Freeh Report is airing. I would fully expect that the OTL panel will shoot down the Paterno's report (they might not even have an opportunity to review it before the show).
EDIT: I was mistaken. My comments above are wrong.
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I wonder if there is connection between the findings and Frazier somehow changing his tune AND Surma saying he wouldn't run again.
Surman not running again screems to me that something will come out about him/.
Frazier changing his tune tells me that this report shows the board they were wrong and they need to change their course of action.
I just find it funny that it will only be discussed for a half hour on Sunday when the Freeh Report was talked about for hours.
It was my understanding that the panelists are the authors of the report. So they know the contents of the report. There is no way this is coincidence.
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