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What we have been saying for awhile..Nice to see more people jump in though.
This post was edited by tmaluchnik 12 months ago
"Whoever’s trying to kill me isn’t getting the job done. But one day, I’m going to punch that f___r in the face."
Mike Dawson @MikeDawsonCDT 3m
A hearing Wednesday re: Gov. Corbett's lawsuit against NCAA over #PennState sanctions is delayed. Judge Yvette Kane has a funeral to attend.
Mike Dawson @MikeDawsonCDT 2m
New date for hearing re: Gov Corbett/NCAA lawsuit is 2 p.m. May 20. NCAA is asking judge to throw out the lawsuit.
Dominate The State
that's a big delay...ugh and the wait continues, ha
Wish the judicial system wasnt so backlogged on stupid cases. That is speaking with very little knowledge of the judicial system so I may be off.
This is one time I wish corruption in politics would actually play out positively for us.
Yea, very disappointing that a case that is so time-critical gets delayed 18 calendar days because the judge will be out for a day or two. Kane obviously knows that the NCAA is trying to stall this.
Looks like they got their story straight this time.
University, in filing, doesn't deny efforts to hide Sandusky allegations; it argues that intent of conspiracy was not to harm youthful victim.
The Freeh report must be exposed for what it is - a disgrace and a travesty of justice. After reading some of the links off of PennLive's news this morning, I am sick. I won't link to anything, but one disgusting article states as a matter of fact that PSU's leadership knowingly covered up for child abuse just like one of the worst cases in the Catholic Church. This is the opinion of the public at large and it is validated by the Freeh report. It is damning and it is believed by the public as the final record approved by our university.
If our BOT is to accomplish anything, it has to review the report. Take AG Thornburgh's offer and bring Freeh back and have a hearing. Invite Clemente. Let Freeh answer why he is so sure PSU's leadership covered up as opposed to being fooled. Let Freeh answer why he didn't address the latter's possibility or discuss the concept of grooming as Clemente has taught. Let Freeh answer why a few parsed emails are enough for the condemnation of previously reputable people, without even interviewing them. Let him answer why he didn't even mention in his report that he couldn't retrieve a majority of emails as a result the email system switch.
I want to move on, but is there really anything more important than this? The Freeh report can't be the final record. I hope the new BOT members hear this. I hope they fight. Fight like a bunch of f**kers.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by fullback dive 11 months ago
"You can take bowl games and you can take external things from people, but you can't take a warrior's heart."
"DOMINATE the state" - James Franklin 1/11/14
I agree 1000000% with you. The problem the BOT got what they wanted in the Freeh report. They paid for a predetermined outcome and Freeh/media convinced the media. Unfortunately, unless we somehow can prove Frazier, Peetz, Surma, Masser, Broadhurst, etal did something illegal (or very unethical) this will be the final word.
Even if the admins win their trials the only way for the record to be changed will be for the BOT to discredit the Freeh report themselves and that will never happen as long as the above mentioned people are on the board.
It just sickens me!
Can't post from my phone but BWI had a free article up on the Gov's lawsuit. As far as an injunction it kinda goes against everything the lawyers on the board have said.
Frankly, I don't think there's anything of substance to the article. He mentions that an injunction would be bad, but that's been stated here already. Plus acting like the NCAA was going to let us start the penalties early w/o the lawsuit is just naive.
This post was edited by stigs007 11 months ago
First of all it is just a hearing. Secondly, the Commonwealth is not looking for a temporary injunction.
Can't say I agree with Bauer's take. It's possible, but he is assuming an eventual loss in court, which I really don't see happening if it gets that far. if it gets to discovery, I certainly think the NCAA will settle. If they don't, I don't see their case holding up. Bauer is being in credibly pessimistic. Sure, it makes it hard for BOB to plan for getting through the sanctions if somethings gums up the works, but it would be foolish to not try to challenge this (see BOT).
After reading the article it appears that it's more opinion than facts. I'll wait an see how things play out in the courtroom.
Not sure how it goes against the board's lawyers but it basically made 2 points:
1. Any voluntary potential reduction in sanctions is a moot point because of the politics behind the law suits and other stuff going on. The implication is that if the lawsuits were not there then the NCAA would be much more apt to consider leniency in regard to sanctions. Now Emmert is digging in.
2. There is a potential that Judge Kane denies the motion and could offer a temporary injunction as the case moves to discovery and potential trial. Bauer's point is that the cloud that would hang over the program, because of the unknown, would do more harm than good.
Interesting take from someone I'd consider close to the program, but I wouldn't consider any of it groundbreaking as those possibilities have been discussed here and other boards for quite some time.
I agree with Bauer. Uncertainty would hurt the program. The only thing worse than the sanctions is not knowing what the rules will be...
Sorry, I disagree. Even if an injunction were to be issued, PSU would just continue to operate as though the sanctions were still in place. That way, if in fact the State loses the case at some point down the road, PSU could point to the fact that they voluntarily fulfilled the terms of the sanctions during the injunction. The NCAA would not extend the sanctions for whatever the period of the injunctions was - that would be overly punitive, create a huge backlash from the media, and open them up to yet another suit, which they would almost certainly lose. There's no impact to recruiting; you simply continue to recruit as you are right now.
This is a no-lose situation for PSU.
I just don't see the benefit of an injunction if PSU intends to follow the sanctions regardless.
When I looked last, there were no motions for preliminary injunction. So no injunction will issue. The permanent injunction likely won't happen for 2 years, so this "injunction" he's talking about is something that isn't related to the case...
I think he was referring to a temporary injunction. That being said, I'm not sure with the leadership in place that they would not just ignore a permanent injunction or a settlement that would reduce sanctions.
The plaintiff (the State) isn't seeking an injunction - that's one of the reasons Bauer's column is well, frankly, just silly. The case calls for, and we all hope for, the elimination of a significant portion of the sanctions. That's best case. Many people hope that if the case is given standing by the courts, the NCAA will voluntarily reduce the sanctions and settle with the State, rather than go through a damaging discovery process and potentially lose.
Bauer is claiming that if a temporary injunction is issued by the judge, suspending the sanctions until such time as the case is heard and decided, it would have very harmful effects to recruiting - the uncertainty would prevent kids from coming. But it's a completely faulty argument, as a) no injunction has been requested by the plaintiff (the State), b) the criterion for issuing a temporary injunction, as pointed out on BWI, are such that one is not likely to be issued in this case, and c) even if a temp injunction WAS issued, PSU could simply voluntarily abide by the terms of the sanctions, as they are now, and fulfill them anyway.
The hope in that case would be that the case would be decided in the State's favor at some point prior to the conclusion of the sanctions, and PSU would be made whole before the sanctions ran out. If the NCAA happened to win, then no harm no foul - PSU has already been serving the sanctions. Bauer's column makes no sense.
I gotcha. I'm just saying that a hypothetical temporary injunction seems like it would do more harm than good. I did know that the State wasn't seeking a temporary injunction.
Personally, I can't see Emmert making it another year as head of the NCAA. If the O'Bannon case is made a class action lawsuit, look for Emmert to be gone sooner rather than later. A new president, IMO, will be much more willing to reduce the sanctions against PSU in an attempt to gain some good PR and also avoid costly litigation as the NCAA fights the other lawsuits they are currently involved with.
I can't believe he is still president now considering the Miami debacle and also the rule change failures. What exactly has Emmert done to keep his job?
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