The Lions' Pride

Moye- 4.45
Lynn- 4.52
Powell- 4.55
Still- 5.12
Crawford- 4.92
Stupar- 4.70
Troutman- 5.31

I doubt Moye runs in the 4.4s

if anybody cares, here's last years according to ESPN.

Moye- 4.56
Lynn- 4.58
Still- 5.14
Powell- 4.54
Stupar- 4.78
Crawford- 4.85
Troutman- 5.41

Moye - 4.52
Lynn -4.65
Powell - 4.48
Stupar - 4.7
Still - 5.1
Troutman - 5.5

I talked to a few of my buddies who are scouts with the ravens. They have moye as a sixth rounder and estimate he'll run a low to mid 4.6. If he runs a sub 4.5, his stock will really rise to a fourth rounder. My buddy with the Saints have him as a 5th rd guy, right now.
This is what I'm hearing: Scouts love his size. Has shown the ability to be physical, although he should do this more. Aren't happy with his inability to get separation. And aren't happy about how he didn't take his game to a new level his senior year. For someone with good hands, those drops during the season really hurt his status. Can be a lazy route runner (I would say can be a very lazy route runner). Can't say I disagree with much if this.
FYI Still's stock is falling. Heard at least six 4-3 teams have him as a late 1st rounder. 3-4 teams have him as a mid first. Still's gonna need to do some work.

Pretty much agree with "beaglespackers"

Moye- 4.49 (beaglespackers said 4.56)
Lynn- 4.58
Still- 5.14
Powell- 4.54
Stupar- 4.68 (beaglespackers said 4.78)
Crawford- 4.85
Troutman- 5.41

This is interesting. First, I don't know why anyone would draft Moye if he runs in the 4.63-4.66 range. I also don't understand the comment about him showing the ability to be physical. I literally have never seen him be physical. As for separation, IMO he gets good separation on medium/deep routes, but struggles in shorter routes where quickness and physicality are more important. And again, I will be surprised if he doesn't get under 4.6. He eats up ground if he doesn't have to go around/through you. I think he'll surprise a bit with his track speed, assuming he gets a decent start (which is not a guarantee).

Anyway, thanks for sharing, interesting stuff.

Edit: Also, Still's stock was artificially inflated by the mock draft "experts". IMO it never made sense to have him in the top ten. He can obviously create some momentum with a great combine performance, but I think he'll settle in where he probably belonged the whole time, somewhere in the last half of the first round. But all it takes is one team to fall in love with you, so who knows.

Powell- 4.44
Thats going to get Powell drafted
Question after that is how much has he learned and what position will he play where he can excel at the next level.

Reminds me of Devin Hester (obviously not the same caliber athlete)
Not great at one thing.. but good at everything.. and mediocre college careers….

I'd say I'm not sure I'd call his ability to separate good on medium and long routes, I'd call it sufficient for college. And I'd say he is better at separation on shorter routes than you give him credit for. He's open initially many times on shorter routes, the ball just doesn't get there in time. After a couple of seconds that window is closed. Not the receivers fault if the balls not there when it should be. That's a qb issue, thats something good scouts will will be able to differentiate. At least I'm sure moye hopes so! :)
Is he physical? No, but I saw glimpses of it last year, and for a while, I thought he might be turning the corner. Then this year came and nothing. The point the scouts were making, and a correct one, is he had done it in the past and has the ability to do it. We just don't see it in anywhere near the sustain amount that would warrant a high pick. Showing that he can play physical is iportant though. It is the diffrrence between getting drafted late and not at all.
If he can be made to play more physical, and it's a big if, I could see him playing in the inside. As I mentioned, I think he's better on shorter routes than you give him credit for. His size and quickness... He'd be a match up nightmare for line backers, and number three dbs in the nickel. A very poor man's victor Cruz, if you will. Oh well, lots of talent but never put it all together. Hopefully he will get into a team that'll coach him up.
I can tell you as late as two months that several NFL teams had him in the top ten. And no scout worth a darn even reads ESPN or nfl network stuff. So I dont put much stock in their influence. still's dropping because others are rising. At the beginning of the season teams put together a very early list of top players in each position. They normally don't do a major reorganization of that list, though there are some revisions, until after the season. I think now the evaluation process is in its main crazy period, his stock is dropping. I just talked to a colt scout, he said they looked at odrick for a comparison. Same team, same coaches, same level of competition. do you think still is better? If you do, still should go earlier, if not, he should go later. It's not the most precise way of doing it, but it is one tactic scouts and personnel offices use to begin to determine value. But it is a useful way to begin the process of valuing players.
4-3 teams like odrick better, 3-4 teams like still. Probably somewhere 20s would be my guess. And that is probably where he belongs, perhaps a little higher if you run a 3-4.

I'd to clarify a few of the things you said here but don't want to bog down the thread. Sent you a PM.

You probably could have stopped your post right there.