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    LBU59

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    PHD77

  • PHD77 said...

    Don't you think that the fact that these rather nebulous email artifacts were even "sitting around in a desk draw" indicates the lack of cover-up? If I were truly trying to cover something up, I would not leave one shred of evidence sitting on a computer or in a desk drawer in my office. It just doesn't past the sniff test for me.

    My belief is that McQuery lied to the Grand Jury about what he told Curley, Schultz, and Paterno because he was either afraid of getting in trouble or he wanted to make sure that Sandusky went to jail.

    If you believe that McQeury really did say "messing around or horseplay in the showers" to Schultz & Curley then all of their actions are logical.

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    appoo

  • appoo said...

    Those emails aren't nothing. They got Graham Spanier charged with perjury and added charges to Curley/Schultz.

    I think it's incredibly curious that Schultz had those printed and sitting in a desk drawer.

    We obviously differ on what we think constitutes evidence. As for the sitting in the drawer, it's yet another sign that a cover up is non-existent.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • Jeff, I usually enjoy your writing and perspective, but respectfully, I'm disappointed in your article. This is not an even handed one word against another situation. Freeh did a wicked thing, it was slander, and he knows it. A knowledgeable person CAN NOT CONCLUDE that the leaders at PSU concealed information about a predator without knowing their intent. If they believed MM described horseplay (like they understood '98 to be) and they did not think that Sandusky was a pedaphile for all the reasons Clemente discussed, then they made a poor judgement and NOT a decision to conceal. We don't know yet because the trials haven't happened, but Freeh knowingly ripped our world to shreds. He's smart enough to know what he did and to know he didn't have evidence to back up his conclusions. The Paterno report does not lie, it identifies the glaring holes in his report. In short, one report is wrong and another report shows that it is wrong.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by fullback dive on 2/15/2013 at 3:42 PM

    "You can take bowl games and you can take external things from people, but you can't take a warrior's heart."

    fullback dive

  • Jeff, your analysis is not any different than most of what has been said to this point. I am not sure what your point is other than to say that their report is a biased opinion. The title of the Paterno report is "A Critique of the Freeh Report". And I would guess that they accomplished exactly what they wanted to accomplish - show that Freeh's report was inconsistent and speculative at best towards Paterno. That the report is filled with errors and mistakes with very little supportive evidence. And that the basis of the media response was unwarranted based on a report that really was a poor piece of investigating. The report does an excellent job of this without throwing the other 3 people under the bus, which had to be a delicate line to walk. It also will become more complete as Curley, Schultz, and Spanier are tried. Normally I enjoy your articles and agree with your opinions. However, this time I think your a bit off in your analysis of the Paterno report and its effectiveness. Don't be surprised if this isn't a springboard for further action not only by the Paterno family, but the State of PA, Penn State Univ, and perhaps others.

    drken22

  • Must say that i agree with drken and fullback drive.... I think that the report commissioned by the Paterno's did accomplish what it set out to accomplish, as outlined by drken above. Jeff...I, too, have thoroughly enjoyed your writing and perspectives in just about every article that I have read of yours...but feel that this particular article missed the mark slightly. It has, however, generated some good dialogue. :)

    PHD77

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    psumichael

  • Just registered to comment on this article. We may never know the absolute truth, but I can read. Freeh did not just conclude Joe failed to protect. He states Joe concealed - page 14, and repeatedly concealed - page 16, to prevent negative publicity - page 16. Concealing is an intentional act where failing to protect can be quite passive. To say Joe concealed twice in his findings puts a burden on him to back up his claim. In my opinion he failed to do this.

    This post was edited by phillyfan on 2/15/2013 at 11:53 PM

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  • phillyfan said...

    Just registered to comment on this article. We may never know the absolute truth, but I can read. Freeh did not just conclude Joe failed to protect. He states Joe concealed - page 14, and repeatedly concealed - page 16, to prevent negative publicity - page 16. Concealing is an intentional act where failing to protect can be quite passive. To say Joe concealed twice in his findings puts a burden on him to back up his claim. In my opinion he failed to do this.

    I agree with yOu. The thing is Freeh didn't have to back anything up. He just needed a grandstanding press conference and an eager, incompetent, immoral, etc... Media to run with it. No one needed any facts to crucify paterno just the press conference. Its friggin scary and we all should be concerned. No one in the mainstream media is critical of the freeh report... I just don't get it. This is at least the 4th major bungled investigation has been involved with.

    BKHPSU

  • brian harner said...

    I agree with yOu. The thing is Freeh didn't have to back anything up. He just needed a grandstanding press conference and an eager, incompetent, immoral, etc... Media to run with it. No one needed any facts to crucify paterno just the press conference. Its friggin scary and we all should be concerned. No one in the mainstream media is critical of the freeh report... I just don't get it. This is at least the 4th major bungled investigation has been involved with.

    On that note, no one even heard from Freeh after this press conference which was like 45 minutes after his report came out. Obviously so that no one could possibly read it and just use his summary.

    Then he used his press conference to drive his biased and opinionated bullet points home.

    He took his money, did exactly what some members of the board had hoped - pin it on Paterno, not the University, and wasn't heard from until the Paterno report was released. To which he replied 20 minutes or so after the report was released clearly without reading it.

    It is a complete failure by the media and the Bot in my opinion to let what happened happen.

    drken22

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    PennStateFan33

  • I don`t post much but I have read the Freeh Report Jeff and to be honest it`s a joke ! And for you to say the Paterno Report has no new facts or doesn't change much is just as much a joke! This whole mess is an insult to the intelligence of most Pennsylvanians ! The Paterno Report should never have had to be written. That's how bad the free report is ! Funny thing is Freeh clearly states PSU had no involvement in the 98 investigation and clearly states that Tim Curley informed the Second Mile of the 2001 incident . And the fact that Freeh had financial ties to PSU is a conflict of interest. But it really gets me that for 35 years the Second Mile a state and federally license charity full of childcare specialist and advocates worked with state run agencies like DPW,CYS,STATE POLICE,AG`S OFFICE ,JUDGES,FEDERAL AUTHORIES FOR 35 YEARS! And during the 98 investigation Sandusky still had access to children and was able to adopt 5 children after 98. But the Pennsylvania Child Protection act clearly states that any individual accused or suspected of abuse of a minor that state agencies involved are to stop any interaction with accused or suspected pedophiles and have procedures in place to do so and none of them did ! That`s right the very people responsible for these children failed ! Yet now they are getting a 60 million dollar raise ! And what is really sick and insulting is they hide behind the victims with their hands out! And don't forget the coach and principle that handed one victim over to Sandusky when ever the coach demanded . But yet we are debating what Paterno did ? Joe reported 3rd hand info about a former employee up his chain of command! Tim Curley reported incident to second mile peiod!!! No cover up just a bunch of save my own ass pass the buck politicians protecting themselves at the expense of our children!!!!

    paulie b