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Seltz said...
It cant be done, as has been proven by a few in this thread.
And you need to make sure the ones named are better, as it is a common spin tactic to try and use those that could be argued as maybe possibly sorta kinda being equal to better haha
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sneakypete said...
It's not a fail at all. Let's start with a simple one. The goal of every team is to win MNC. The next goal is to reach a BCS game. Just about every team up there has more BCS appearances then we do. Iowa has as many as we do and they have owned us.
Again, very very fail.
Do some research, without head buried in sand, and you will find your answers.
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Seltz said...
Again, very very fail.
Do some research, without head buried in sand, and you will find your answers.
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sneakypete said...
The buried head is you. Like I said, all but Iowa have more BCS game appearances, that's more successful seasons then PSU. I've found my answers. I'd also prolly put a few more teams ahead of us IMO, but those are teams that have had a better past decade then PSU.
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Problem is, the point is to win games, not just "reach BCS bowls." Also, that statistic tends to ignore overall poor seasons. Hypothetically, you could have one team go 9-4 each year without ever making a BCS bowl, and a second team make a BCS bowl one year then go winless for the next 9 years. And by your logic, the second team would be better than the first.
BCS bowl appearances alone are not an appropriate measure of strength of a program/team. It's one of several factors.
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Notre Dame? You can't be serious...
Miami (what have they done since 2002 that we haven't?..... aside from being busted for cheating also)
What has Georgia done that we haven't?
What has FSU done in the past 10 years that we haven't?
WVU? I guess if you count roughly equal success as we have had while we have played in a 1000x tougher conference, then sure.
Stanford... over the last 10 years? Really? The last 3, yes. Not the last 10.
Iowa? Yeah they've had our number. But as a program, we have had much more success overall then they have over the last decade.
I can go on. At least half this list is highly questionable.
Just because a school has experienced success at any point during the last 10 years doesn't make them a better program than us over that last period. The Temple board is that way --->Try to fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured .but not prove they're a citizen
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Problem is, the point is to win games, not just "reach BCS bowls." Also, that statistic tends to ignore overall poor seasons. Hypothetically, you could have one team go 9-4 each year without ever making a BCS bowl, and a second team make a BCS bowl one year then go winless for the next 9 years. And by your logic, the second team would be better than the first.
BCS bowl appearances alone are not an appropriate measure of strength of a program/team. It's one of several factors.
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jmisdamina said...
Last 20 years
Stanford?!?!? HAHA the school with 7 straight losing seasons from 2002-2009, and 5 more losing seasons in the last 20. They have more losing seasons then winning seasons. Great analysis there.
Notre Dame? 4 ten win seasons and two were 19 and 20 years ago. Big wins, no BCS wins, and four total bowl victories.
TCU?!? 6 non winning seasons, while in CUSA/WAC/SWC no less. 1 BCS victory.
Georgia? 4 top ten finishes, 2 BCS victories
Iowa? 8 non-winning seasons, 2 conferencee titles, 1 BCS victory, 4 10 win seasons
Oregon? 4 top 10 finishes, 2 BCS wins
The first five have to be a joke, right? Plus what has Miami done since 2004, won the Peach Bowl and MPC bowls?
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Problem is, the point is to win games, not just "reach BCS bowls." Also, that statistic tends to ignore overall poor seasons. Hypothetically, you could have one team go 9-4 each year without ever making a BCS bowl, and a second team make a BCS bowl one year then go winless for the next 9 years. And by your logic, the second team would be better than the first.
BCS bowl appearances alone are not an appropriate measure of strength of a program/team. It's one of several factors.
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Miami, let's see. Played in 4 BCS games. Won an MNC and played in a second. That's more success then PSU has had this decade.
FSU, let's see. Played in 3 MNC games. Won an MNC. Played in 6 BCS games. That's more success then PSU has had.
WVU has more BCS games as does Stanford, ND and Georgia.
Iowa has as many BCS appearances as we do AND they have owned us.
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Seltz said...
Add to that that they (BCS Bowls) are selected games. Not always an outright earned game. It is a factor and why it is as deceptive a 'stat' as the Mythical NC is.
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psubills62 said...
Exactly. Last year, Michigan State beat Michigan and went to the conference championship, but Michigan went to the BCS bowl. Which was the better team? Last I checked, ND got preferential treatment when selected for a BCS bowl, so how anyone can consider that an achievement for them, I'll never know.
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I never said they had the scenarios I described. I described the hypothetical situation to make a point that BCS bowl appearances or wins are not the sole measure for success of a program. You just cannot ignore things like total wins (which would flush out the pretenders in that hypothetical scenario, btw).
WVU only makes it to BCS bowl games because someone from the Big East has to go.
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