The Lions' Pride

People get too caught up in the Urban Meyer hype, yes he's a good recruiter but it's not like he's going to land the top 25 players in the country every year. Every commit in the 2013 class would still be commits if anyone else was a coach, all of those kids grew up OSU fans. The idol worship of him by OSU fans is scary, they literally think they'll flip every recruit that Urban wants.

Kyle Kalis

I think too many here are overlooking this fact. One know it all here told me the scandal had NO effect on the staff hiring. Really?? I believe the kid from WV, Switzer was ready to pull the trigger Sunday but suddenly he wanted to involve his mom in the decision. Think she wasn't having something to say about the "situation"? This is going to be the case with many of these kids for more than just this year. The best thing that can happen is the 2012 season and get it behind so the staff can have something to point to, hopefully an upset or two, as selling points. Right now there's a HUGE cloud of uncertaintly hanging over the school as well as the ability of this staff. These are facts that can't be ignored.

As an example of a kid who couldn't be flipped by Meyer, even though he was from OH and was even committed previously to OSU.

The sky is falling! Everyone panic. Oh wait the sky already fell in november and we are still here. Give the staff a little time, they are doing the work that is necessary to bring us back. Lots of high end recruits are interested and once one pulls the trigger many will follow. It takes a special leader to be the first sometimes. Come on AB.

Will you relax? Rome wasn't built in a day, and no program is defined by any single class. Let Bob coach some games, win some games, get his message out - and you'll see results.

I disagree we're rebuilding by the way...but at the same time, you need to let the new staff get settled in and start building relationship with kids.

Last year, Michigan was helped a great deal by having Matison on staff - the Ravens DC. This year I think we'll get a pretty good impact by having the former Pats OC as our HC. Already I think we lead for some good looking WRs, a star RB, and a blue chip QB - all positions we would have struggled with the old staff this year, because of our offense the last two years. Eventually, the OLineman will come along for us as well.

Got slapped with sanctions? Lol, come on, its a one year bowl ban these recruits will never see.
Fired a coaching legend? Yeah, Jim Tressel wasn't Bear Bryant or Joe Paterno. And the guy they replaced him with is Urban Meyer, twice the coach that Tressel was.
Michigan may have been bad under RichRod, but a BCS game goes a long long way.

We just went through a scandal of epic proportions. We followed it up with a coaching search that was a debacle. Its a slow start, that's for sure. I think BOB will pick it up, and myself frustrated it isn't going q0uicker. But I am not surprised at this, how can I be? Don't be stupid and realize he is starting at minimum 3 months behind.

Recruiting classes won't be why BOB fails, wins and losses will be. Player development matters as much in that as recruiting does.

Our staff needs time to develop/re-develop relationships and "resell" the program to a lot of these kids and their families. Just take a damn chill pill.

Oh and the OP is a troll.

I agree about the big name thing- but in all fairness, hoke did win at sdsu( Not the easiest place to win) and was from the old Michigan regime....obrien doesnt have any track record bc he has never been a headcoach anywhere....he can say he rode Tom bradys coattails for several years is about it.

With all that said- and given the situation, I think he is doing a good job so far and seems to be creating a positive vibe and some excitement for the program

It is way to early to judge this staff or the overall effect of the scandal on recruiting. That said, so far O'Brien has lost 3 4 star recruits and received commitments from 1. Getting highly rated kids early on is essential for a recruiting class so that other kids are assured that a program will have talent around them to compete. Given the uncertainty around PSU, the overall lack of talent brought in the last 2 years, and the fact that most "experts" predict the scandal will knock PSU down a couple rungs, getting kids to verbal early is probably more important for PSU than any other school in the country. So I see the OP's point. I'm hoping that the first verbal comes soon, and it starts some real momentum for this class.