The Lions' Pride

OSU knew who its wanted. It wasn't much of a search.

Any AD worth his salt has a list of coaches he would be interested in should that position be open. Jeremy Foley, as arrogant as he is, is very good at keeping lists and identifying his targets. It speeds up the process. PSU didn't have an AD, let alone a President when the opening happened and therefore, if any lists were kept, they were gone.

Yeah. I have to believe they're not just being lazy here. IF it's going to take another few weeks to hire/announce the next coach (which I'm not completely sold on yet, anyway), I have to assume it's for good reason.

But like you said though, if they wait until around or after the new year, and the hire ends up being "uninspiring" anyway, then that will be pretty infuriating, and my assumption will be shown to be wrong.

At this point though, because I have no other clues to go on right now, for now I have to assume the length of time this is taking is for good reason.

Couldnt agree more. Hiring the right coach is 100 times more important than "saving" this recruiting class. If you hire the wrong coach, the next 5 recruiting classes will suffer.

The people who are jumping off the ledge right now because there isn't a coach only care about this recruiting class. Sorry, its the only reason to explain their uneasiness as other schools are poaching what would have been probably from a top 15 class.

While not void of talent or depth, it isn't full either. There are positions that the depth and talent level don't equate to what PSU should have. Not close.

I'm looking at it realistic, not pessimistic dude. Who ever takes over this program sees depth problems at QB, RB, TE, DB right off the bat. OL is more developmental and who knows about DL is Johnson is gone. This program is a work in progress and anyone can see that. If you think we are loaded, you have a problem. This program is far from loaded. It has talent, but not the type of talent a program like PSU should have.

Yes, a new coach brings a buzz for the program. However it doesn't necessarily translate into GREAT recruiting classes. That hire better be HUGE for it to do so.

UCLA got Mora as a Plan T. That isn't a good fit IMO. Sumlin won't survive four years at aTm. Great offensive mind, sh*tty defensive mind. He should have gone to the Pac 10 where he fits the landscape better. I disagree those two are good fits.

Hamilton... not saying we are loaded I'm saying we can weather the storm. The new coach can pick the guys he wants after that. If there are extra openings for his guys that's fine with me. I don't want to sign a bunch of guys just to see them sit under a new coach. Or have them transfer out and leave us short handed at the wrong times.

Urban also said "he wasn't offered the OSU job" on Sunday and was announced as HC on Monday lol...He was in fact talking to PSU and met with our administration at least twice. No one knows where he would have went if Sandusky didn't happen and to say otherwise is dumb. Not saying you you aren't right, but using Meyer's word when he has repeatedly (like 15-20 times in his life) lied to the media about anything coaching related, isn't a very good way to drive home your point.

i hate seeing recruits go as much as the next person does, but the thing everybody here needs to realize that in time, penn state football will be back to where it belongs. this isn't the very last recruiting class that will ever happen in the world. yeah there is talent in this class, but there's talent in every class. take the time to make the right hire, not because we may strike out with a few recruits this year. it's a long term plan people. penn state will be back where it belongs, and we will witness it. this is why i stopped caring about when we hire a coach. there will be other classes out there to sign with plenty of talent and we will be back on top. people just need to stop thinking it's this class or bust. hire the right coach, but do so by taking the necessary time, not because 2-3 recruits for only this year have jumped ship. not the end of the world, people.

It ok to wait if the coach they hire is a walk off grand slam home run that wins the world series

That's fair enough and I sure do hope they make the right hire if they haven't found their guy yet. But after this long, I figured they'd zeroed in on their guy at this point.

And assuming that's the case, I just don't understand the delay when it seems like a little more money thrown in the chosen one's direction could help speed up the process. Particularly for an NFL coach. What reason would an NFL coach have to delay an announcement? Maybe playoff considerations, but if you're waiting for that reason, then doesn't that preclude them from announcing throughout the playoffs which could stretch into February?

As far as college coaches are concerned, I can only think of two "candidates" who really have something to play for that would require them to put PSU on hold as its recruiting class deteriorates and that would require them to wait around until Jan 10th to announce. And it goes without saying they would both be pipe dream candidates.