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paupacklion said...
If he can't play a little hurt or if we have to dissect each of his bad throws and offer explanations for them, what the hell is he doing with a scholarship to a Division I school? I am done with Bolden..I was at the game...no excitement, no leadership, no accuracy, and the crowd cheered when MM came in the game. This "competition" should be over, and if our beloved JoePa continues with the two QB system then he should be fired for being an idiot. This is the key stretch of the season. We need to settle on MM and call the plays that suit his abilities. Can someone please get some common sense on our staff?
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md154 said...
The same crowd that chanted his name a few weeks ago?
Come on now...crowds change their person on a gamely basis.
Pretty sure all coaches dissect each QB's throws and look at whether it was a smart decision but bad throw, bad decision and bad throw, bad footwork, bad read, etc...
His accuracy was off last week, no doubt. But I take a few positives from it that I know MM fans won't do....
1) On his screen pass, he retreated back to give himself more time like he should. First time he's done that. 2) A couple bad passes were actually very smart decisions in the face of pressure. First pass to Suhey he was about to be pounded but threw to the sideline rather than forcing down field. The pass that hit the ump was a smart toss to the check down receiver in the face of pressure again. Bad throws? Yes..but smart decisions which is important.
RB is clearly missing a couple things and he'll be fine. Missing some touch on short passes, which can come with reps AND coaching. And he can spend some time moving the pocket himself a little like MM does. I think someone drilled him in the head to stay in the pocket, so he does. He has natural ability to move, he showed it on his run for 9 yards. he just needs to do that when throwing too.
All comes with reps.
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PSUJim said...
md154, please tell me how many reps someone needs to throw a screen pass? How many reps does someone need to hit a wide open receiver standing in the middle of the field???? I mean, really, game experience is certainly important. However, at what point do you stop making excuses for someone based on reps?????
For timing routes or out patterns where guys are making their breaks and you have to throw the ball before they are looking - I can see MAYBE a little bit. But come on, someone should have enough reps in a few practices to make some of the throws that he is missing. Reps have NOTHING to do with RB's issues right now, so please stop saying that. He has played for nearly 1 1/2 seasons, which is more than some kids play in a whole career in college. Yes he is young, but his issues are in his confidence. He may be better with different coaching, but he has to make the best of what he has right now or it won't really matter much.
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LaJollaLion said...
This isn't peewee ball and you don't keep getting reps in hopes you get better. At some point you are expected to produce. In my opinion Bolden is lucky to get any snaps this weekend, let alone start the game. Joe must have really had to talk them into staying for him to allow this to keep going on right now. Most see MM has limitations, but he at least can see pressure and doesn't throw a rocket on a 5 foot pass. Injury aside this may be Rob's last week to see reps if he has another subpar showing. Reps are not required, they have to be earned as well. We all were hopeful that Rob would step it up and take the job this year, he hasn't. That isn't on MM or Joe...it's on him at some point in time. Just like it's on him to win it.
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LaJollaLion said...
This isn't peewee ball and you don't keep getting reps in hopes you get better. At some point you are expected to produce. In my opinion Bolden is lucky to get any snaps this weekend, let alone start the game. Joe must have really had to talk them into staying for him to allow this to keep going on right now. Most see MM has limitations, but he at least can see pressure and doesn't throw a rocket on a 5 foot pass. Injury aside this may be Rob's last week to see reps if he has another subpar showing. Reps are not required, they have to be earned as well. We all were hopeful that Rob would step it up and take the job this year, he hasn't. That isn't on MM or Joe...it's on him at some point in time. Just like it's on him to win it.
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md154 said...
You're under the impression that starting is a positive for him. I think the exact opposite. If I were MM, I'd keep wanting him to start so I could keep watching the defense before I go into the game. Let him take the beat down from the blitz schemes being run, and let him set up a run game.
This post was edited by LaJollaLion on 10/12/2011 at 6:24 PM
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md154 said...
You're under the impression that starting is a positive for him. I think the exact opposite. If I were MM, I'd keep wanting him to start so I could keep watching the defense before I go into the game. Let him take the beat down from the blitz schemes being run, and let him set up a run game.
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LaJollaLion said...
Not buying that at all. He also comes in later on in the game too sometimes. It's not fair for either QB but you only tend to make excuses for one. Bottom line is MM will make mistakes, but he is playing more confident football right now. The team is 5-1 and you can't coddle the soph anymore in hopes he gets it. He had his time on the pot...it's about time to get off.
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FireJayPa said...
I agree 100% that it's all up in his thought locker; however, I'm not going to throw this 100% on Jay (and everyone knows how much I dislike that guy).
To me it looks a lot like golf. You have a bad tee-shot (slice/hook) and you panic, then the next thing you want to do is have a perfect shot to get back on the fairway and try to save par. But then you screw up and you're in the rough/sand/whatever - you have a bad hole and go , I'll just crush the next tee shot and get back on track. The next thing you know, you're pressing so bad you don't even remember the last time you had a good round. It becomes a job that you don't even enjoy.
At this point it looks like Bolden is pressing so hard out there that he's a total headcase. My advice (as ill-advised as that normally is) is to get a sports shrink to talk to him and get this all figured out. He has the tangibles (height/speed/strength/etc) he just needs to fight those demons in his head.
And believe me, I get it - it can't be easy for him. Going from highschool where he was the man, to starting at a D1 program out of the gate and then losing his job. Trying to adjust to the academics, make friends, have time for family and then everything else. It can't be easy for him right now.
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FG Dreadnought said...
Have you been spying on my golf game?
A note to the "bands" thing. The wrap on Bolden's bicep was not one of the small bands that many players wear to accentuate their biceps, like Clark did, but it was a wide wrap of at least two to three inches over the middle of the bicep. The bands that many players wear are worn above or below the bicep to "show off" the muscle development. That was not the case in the medical bandage wrap Bolden was wearing on Saturday. Something must have happened to his arm. Whether it was enough to impact his throwing motion or any other factor was not mentioned by anyone and I don't remember any reports on that question being asked during the post game PC or Tuesday.
We are all in the dark as to what happened and what it portends. Hope he is OK.
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md154 said...
That is correct. It was a brown medical wrap, not the black Nike bands that many players wear. So something definitely was up. he took a shot directly on that spot on the pass he completed to the Ump.
I have zero doubt it probably affected him a bit on his last few throws and there is no way he's going to be like "yeah it hurts...take me out so I can just watch MM be given the job again like last year."



Bolden injury?