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Bama - a scouting report by a Bama fan.

  • Sorry for the length, as well as my crimson colored view of the world.

    1) The Defense – I hesitate to group everything from the entire area of defense into one category, as it makes it seem like an over-generalization. But this defense is simply filthy. It’s the same D you faced last year, but deeper and more experienced. This may be the best D that Bama has ever fielded, at least in the modern era. They are built to stop the run first, and they have no peer in that regard. Three corners (in nickel) and two safeties that will all play on Sundays don’t make passing any easier. Pro talent at every position on the field, including the 3-deep, loaded with experience. Saban and co. will stuff the run, and then bring pressure from every point on the field on passing downs. If they have a weakness, it would be the pass rush on non-passing downs. The 3 down linemen are more adept at stopping the run than rushing the passer. But I’m looking for something to say here. It’s not much. To put in perspective – the starters gave up 28 YARDS last week in 3+ quarters, before the back-ups went in, including 2 first downs. Filthy.
    2) RB – a Heisman candidate and a pro-quality backup. You know about Trent Richardson, so we can keep it short. They get better as the games wear on.
    3) OL – This was supposed to be a major advantage for Bama, with huge, talented guys at every position. But the likely starting LT died tragically in the off-season. It has caused a reshuffling, and the coaches are still experimenting, even during last week’s game. As a result, they looked vulnerable at times last week against a MAC team.
    4) WR – Experience and speed. But they have no Julie Jones (a game changer) anymore. Bama is looking to figure out who will take his touches. A Junior College transfer – Duron Carter (HOF- Chris Carter’s kid) may be the guy, but is an unknown at this point. Look for a lot of short passes to allow them to use their speed and agility, then shots down the field when the safeties come up to support the run.
    5) QB – much like PSU, this is a position in flux. Two guys with great talent levels (each was one of top 3 QB’s their senior year). McCarron (starter) and Sims (will get PT), but lacking in experience. They each have NFL arms, but are learning to play the position. Staff will use the pass on early downs and play action to give the best shot at success. They WILL throw down the field. This will be the best shot at generating turn-overs. Together, they threw 4 in the 1st game.
    6) TE – above average here, but no one spectacular. They block extremely well, and are above average pass catchers. They will get involved in the passing game, especially in play-action.
    7) Special Teams – Good to great kickers, but not elite. They use two – one for accuracy and one for range. Bama wins a lot of games with the kicking game, so expect them to be solid. Bama tried a 54 yarder last week. He missed it, but it will tell you a lot of the faith in the kicking game. The punting game is inconsistent, and has some of the fan base concerned, as they are sporadic. The coverage units are elite. This comes from having insane depth or talent, particularly on the defense.

    Overall – this Bama team looks a lot like what traditional PSU teams have looked like. Suffocating defense and plan to run the ball down your throat. PSU will have to pass on early downs and not turn the ball over. You will not be able to run effectively. Your D has to commit to stopping the run and generate turn-overs. I predict a good, old-fashioned slugfest.

    Bama fans have immense respect for the Penn State program, tradition, and style. We think of Joe Pa as one of the great coaches and are stoked about getting to see him at home. We’re looking forward to a great game.

    I hope one of you will comment on your team, and forgive my view of our team through my crimson-colored glasses.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Vandy_95 on 9/6/2011 at 2:24 PM

    Vandy_95

  • Didn't read the whole thing but loved that OSU is now considered a JUCO.

    "A Junior College transfer – Duron Carter (HOF- Chris Carter’s kid) may be the guy, but is an unknown at this point. "

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  • psujmc1992 said...

    Didn't read the whole thing but loved that OSU is now considered a JUCO.

    "A Junior College transfer – Duron Carter (HOF- Chris Carter’s kid) may be the guy, but is an unknown at this point. "

    Liked that as well, but to be fair he transferred from OSU to a JUCO and then to 'Bama.

    This post was edited by MTayl72 on 9/6/2011 at 2:23 PM

    MTayl72

  • "WR – Experience and speed"

    Besides Maze, where is the experience and speed?

    Alabama is a great college program, but this kind of self-praise on another team's board is annoying, imo.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • Thanks for the comments on Alabama. I think your D will be a great measuring stick for our offense to see how far they've come from last year. Even against you guys we were able to move the ball, it was scoring that was an issue.

    Our team:
    QB - As you said, position in flux. Bolden is the guy who has physical tools but doesn't quite seem to be consistent enough to be a good starter yet. He can move the ball, but has trouble in the red zone. McGloin can also move the ball, and has a tendency to put points on the board but also has tendencies to throw game-breaking INT's (multiple times). As others have said, choosing between Bolden and McGloin is like choosing between losing 24-3 and losing 34-13. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

    WR - Good wide receivers. Moye is tall, lanky guy with long strides and ability to go deep. Does a number of things well, not sure any one thing stands out. Justin Brown is more of a possession guy who has a knack for getting open, but not a speed WR. Shawney Kersey is a bit of an unknown, but should be a 6'2" fast WR. Outside of those guys, not sure if Drake will play and don't feel like commenting on the rest.

    RB - Redd, Redd, Redd. Kid is electric. Not a power back, but slippery and can break tackles. Not a dancer, but has moves. Smooth is a word that describes him well. Very, very talented back. Beachum is a power between-the-tackles RB. Mike Zordich is the lead blocker at FB, Joe Suhey is something of an H-back.

    TE - Big trouble last year with this position. Had to start a true freshman in Haplea most of the year. Andrew Szczerba is back, who is a good blocker and decent receiver. He may not play this week due to concussion. If not, we may turn to Haplea and Nate Cadogan (OT turned to blocking TE).

    OL - More of a cohesive unit than last year and more experienced. Interior is in a bit of flux, but Stankiewitch is the C, Troutman, Pannell and Urschel are three OG's fighting to start. Pannell is not very good IMO, Urschel is young, Troutman is a power guy (senior). Tackles are average, Barham is an OK LT, Okoli is becoming a pretty good RT. Probably will have trouble with blitzes again this year.

    DL - May be one of the most important units for PSU going into the Alabama game. Still and Hill were dominant last week at DT and Crawford showed signs of his athletic potential. Sean Stanley, a smaller DE, started opposite Crawford and didn't show much but was OK. The DT's may cause enough havoc to stop your O, but they're inconsistent.

    LB - Much improved over last year. Can go two deep and not lose much quality at all. Gerald Hodges is the athletic OLB (injured himself opening kickoff against Bama last year). Glenn Carson is a young MLB, not much known about him right now. Bigger than our usual LB's, though, it seems. Mike Mauti is the relatively known stud at OLB, fierce guy. Nate Stupar may be on to rush the passer. Khairi Fortt is true soph who is backup at MLB, Mike Hull is RS Soph who is reportedly most instinctual LB we have. Great unit.

    CB - Actually somewhat deep this year, though the talent remains to be seen. D'Anton Lynn is a big guy who will play in the NFL. Good, solid corner. Stephon Morris is a guy who had a big sophomore slump all last year but will hopefully step it up this year. Chaz Powell is fighting Morris to start, he's a speedy guy, not sure how physical he is though. Backups are decent, Derrick Thomas has talent to start but gets in Joe's doghouse. Adrian Amos, true freshman with an INT last week, showed real promise.

    S - Astorino and Nick Sukay have been starting for a while. Sukay showed quite a bit before getting injured last year, Astorino is OK, but not great. May be coming back to form after some injuries last year or two. Malcolm Willis is the physical, good safety behind them.

    Overall, I'd say our talent level is a notch below yours at most every position. That being said, I think we've got enough talent to compete with you guys and it will be a good game. I've been predicting Bama by 7 points for a while now.

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  • JudgeSmailsPSU said...

    "WR – Experience and speed"

    Besides Maze, where is the experience and speed?

    Alabama is a great college program, but this kind of self-praise on another team's board is annoying, imo.

    Youre right. There isn't much experience. There would be if WR Darius Hanks was not sitting out this week.

    There are upperclassmen on the roster, but not much experience. White (new starter because of Hanks) and Maze are fast, but I don't think it is really an advantage.

    Here's my scouting report: 2 good defenses. Let's see which team can make plays in the passing game without turning it over. At this point, neither team is proven though there is potential.

    Alabama

  • Vandy_95 said...

    You will not be able to run effectively.

    Game on lol

    In all seriousness, I agree with everything you said. Just an unbelievably stacked team.

    I laughed when I read "The punting game is inconsistent, and has some of the fan base concerned". I guess if thats the type of thing that Bama fans get antsy about these days, you know you have an amazing team.

    My biggest concern isn't so much the talent differential, but how PSU's o-line deals with the 3-4 defense. Unlike the NFL, most college teams don't see it much if ever. Our staff will surely use last year's film as the basis to go on, but the beauty of the 3-4 is the creativity and versatility it gives to the coaching staffs to confuse the offense. I'm sure Saban and Co. will use completely different blitz packages from what we saw last year...and our o-line will struggle adjusting. We have a new starting center, so he didn't get the experience from last year's game going up against the NT.

    It'll be tough...

    Thanks for the write-up.

    LambeauLeap

  • Alabama said...

    Youre right. There isn't much experience. There would be if WR Darius Hanks was not sitting out this week.

    There are upperclassmen on the roster, but not much experience. White (new starter because of Hanks) and Maze are fast, but I don't think it is really an advantage.

    Here's my scouting report: 2 good defenses. Let's see which team can make plays in the passing game without turning it over. At this point, neither team is proven though there is potential.

    I agree with that. Alabama ran the ball down PSU's throats last year. What Alabama fans probably aren't aware of is that that wasn't a representative PSU defense. I think we had a streak of 5 or 6 years before that of being a Top 20 defense in the country. We fell far off that pace last year due to injuries and graduation losses. Poor defensive ends (injuries, mostly), poor play from the linebackers (injuries, graduation losses, poor senior starters), poor secondary play (both safeties injured). I think PSU gave up 166 yards/gm on the ground last year, which is pretty much unheard of at PSU.

    We're excited about this defense. The defensive ends are healthy again. We're thrilled about the linebackers, who are good enough to put a senior starter to the bench. The secondary is very experienced. Jordan Hill, DT, was called possibly the most talented DT Coach Johnson has ever had, by him in the offseason. He's going to be a big factor. The defense will do their part.

    If PSU can stop the Alabama running game, this is anyone's game.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • Question for Bama fans: and let me preface it with the fact that I've thought since last September that TR is THE best back in the country. Ok question - how did he only manage 37 yds on 13 carries last week? Even if the 3 TDs were on goal line totes, which i know they werent, that would mean he gained 34 yds on the other 10 carries.

    beck881psu

  • i think penn state is going to suprise some people with their ability to run the ball...Redd is a one of a kind back when it comes to being able to do stuff by himself (without good blocking). The kid barely gets hit in the backfield and it wouldn't suprise me if he went over 100 yards. Now bama fans, im not saying that he is going to run all over you guys, but don't be suprised if he leaves you guys scratching your head on a couple of plays. The kid is a legit threat on offense and everyone knows that the bama coaching staff is game planning around him.

    beaglespackers

  • bmorepsu said...

    Question for Bama fans: and let me preface it with the fact that I've thought since last September that TR is THE best back in the country. Ok question - how did he only manage 37 yds on 13 carries last week? Even if the 3 TDs were on goal line totes, which i know they werent, that would mean he gained 34 yds on the other 10 carries.

    The coaches had a different offensive line out there on almost every single drive. Not many holes to be found found running up the middle until around the third quarter when Kent State had given up and Bama's backups were in. To be fair, Bama did not try to do anything in the running game other than run right up the middle and Kent State was selling out on stopping that.

    There is concern about the offensive line, specifically the guards behind Barrett Jones (who will probably be back at guard this week), but the rushing stats against Kent State were a little misleading. Saban said Richardson is capable of playing a better game, but as a regular fan I do not know what that means - whether he missed a read or what. Hope that helps.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Alabama on 9/6/2011 at 3:12 PM

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  • beaglespackers said...

    i think penn state is going to suprise some people with their ability to run the ball...Redd is a one of a kind back when it comes to being able to do stuff by himself (without good blocking). The kid barely gets hit in the backfield and it wouldn't suprise me if he went over 100 yards. Now bama fans, im not saying that he is going to run all over you guys, but don't be suprised if he leaves you guys scratching your head on a couple of plays. The kid is a legit threat on offense and everyone knows that the bama coaching staff is game planning around him.

    The thing about Redd....I don't think I've ever seen a PSU back, including KiJana and Blair Thomas....who accelerates through traffic like Redd does. The guy is hiccup quick, off the charts quick. It's one thing to be fast, but to have the functional speed like Redd does is special.

    JudgeSmailsPSU

  • Judge, to add to your point about the run game and last years defense, before Trent Richardson put 100+ on the ground against us last year we hadnt had a running back go for over a hundred against us since Shonn Green in 08.. Last years run defense IMO was an anomaly, dont expect Trent to put over a hundred on us on saturday, that embarrassed us.. Turnovers will be a huge factor in this game.. If Bamas D forces our offense into a ton of mistakes and thye get points out of it, Bama will role.. If our offense plays mistake free its anyones game..

    JTNITTANY

  • unless we can stop you early and build confidence, it probably won't be that close. it might end up a little over the spread (10ish i think?) and it won't look like a blowout, but we won't be able to score TD's to stay in it.

    BUT... and this is a big but and a big if... if we hang around, score a TD early, the confidence will be electric.

    Unfortunately, the timing of this game couldn't be worse. We need a midling game first, something to prove that the kids can play against solid competition before taking on an epic monstrosity that is Alabama. In a few weeks it could have been really interesting... week 2, not so much. You're too good and too confident.

    bonovoxpsu

  • JTNITTANY hit it on the head. It's going to be about limiting mistakes.

    He mentioned it in regard to PSU, but Bama's worries lie there as well. If Bama can play mistake free ball, we feel pretty good. But the young QB's and their INTs from last week scare me. The heavy rain this week, and possible rain on Saturday, mean that this could be an old school mudder. If that's the case, passing gets tougher, turnovers become an even bigger issue and the playing field gets even more level.

    The ability of the crowd to keep the pressure on our Oline and QBs will be a big deal as well. If Bama can score early and take the crowd out of it, we like our chances. But if PSU can score off of a pick-6 or something similar early, it could be a long, tense day for those of us wearing red in Happy Valley.

    Was Redd the guy the came on strong late in last year's game?

    Regardless, looking forward to drinking a beer or twelve with you guys before kickoff. Can't f-ing wait.

    Vandy_95

  • bmorepsu said...

    Question for Bama fans: and let me preface it with the fact that I've thought since last September that TR is THE best back in the country. Ok question - how did he only manage 37 yds on 13 carries last week? Even if the 3 TDs were on goal line totes, which i know they werent, that would mean he gained 34 yds on the other 10 carries.

    I will be a little more honest than the previous answer you got. The OLline play was very disappointing. Missed assignments, not holding blocks, missed blocks and in gereral poor play from this unit. They were called out by teammates as well as CNS this week. TR was hit almost every time he ran the ball in the backfield.

    If we do not get better play from our OLine this week PSU will stuff our run and we will have to depend on the pass. I'm not sure we can do that as of yet. No matter how well the OLine plays I expect a typical Alabama - Penn. St. game. Two well coached, hard nosed teams going after each other for 4 Qts. I will not predict a winner, I will predict that whichever team makes the least mistakes and turnovers will win. Duh, bold predition huh, that's the way of most games.

    At any rate, whoever wins, lets all hope for an injury free game. The players will provide the entertainment. Also I hope to see JoePa on the sidelines, the game of college football needs more like him. I realize he is one of a kind though. RTR

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    Cosmo3

  • If you ask me, our refusal to commit to the run last week is one reason the stats were modest at best. I think run-blocking and running is something that requires a rhythm. With a weak opponent, our coaches used the game to let our young QBs throw and never got into a rhythm as far as our ground game goes. I expect that to change this week and I expect Richardson and Lacy to both get a lot of carries very early in the game. I don't see any way we call 42 passing plays this week. McElroy threw 24 times against you guys last year. I don't know that we'll throw it 20 this year.

    Good luck, no injuries, and I'm looking forward to the game.

    ASBamaguy

  • I can understand why Bama fans would be optimistic about the run game against us.. Trent RIchardson is a beast and he ran us into the ground last yeat. However, last years defense was an anomaly, Trent RIchardson was the first back to run for 100+ against us since Shonn Greene in 08...Defense this year is back to normal.. I Trent is going to put up alot of yards its going to take a lot of carries.. Bama will have to throw the ball..

    JTNITTANY

  • Cosmo3 said...

    I will be a little more honest than the previous answer you got. The OLline play was very disappointing. Missed assignments, not holding blocks, missed blocks and in gereral poor play from this unit. They were called out by teammates as well as CNS this week. TR was hit almost every time he ran the ball in the backfield.

    If we do not get better play from our OLine this week PSU will stuff our run and we will have to depend on the pass. I'm not sure we can do that as of yet. No matter how well the OLine plays I expect a typical Alabama - Penn. St. game. Two well coached, hard nosed teams going after each other for 4 Qts. I will not predict a winner, I will predict that whichever team makes the least mistakes and turnovers will win. Duh, bold predition huh, that's the way of most games.

    At any rate, whoever wins, lets all hope for an injury free game. The players will provide the entertainment. Also I hope to see JoePa on the sidelines, the game of college football needs more like him. I realize he is one of a kind though. RTR

    Glad you posted this answer, and I'll add another observation. It seemed to me that the backup RB's had more success than Trent because the defense changed its focus when TR was in the game. They sold out to stop Richardson and the OL just seemed lost. What concerns me about this Saturday is that if PSU sells out to stop the run, there's a good chance that they will be successful. The Bama offense would then have to rely on an inexperienced QB, playing in his first road game in an extremely tough environment, to make plays downfield to open up the running game. I think this game will turn on the ability of Bama's QB to complete passes against man-to-man coverage. If we can't do that, it could be a long day for my guys in Crimson.

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  • I would hope that to be the gameplan, at least early. Make you guys do what you don't want to do and hopefully get the young QB behind the chains to force a mistake. I am so pumped for this game!

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    PSUTimm

  • PSU I come in peace and respect...my grandparents and mother were all born and raised in Pittsburg, PA...grew up as a kid spending summers watching the Pirates play at Forbes Field and rooting for the Steelers in the winter...so even though a Southern Red Neck, I've got Yankee blood too...Richardson and Lacy will bring the wood trust me their one two punch is as good as anyone. This game should continue being played after this year. The respect these two fan bases display is amazing and the teams play with class...the Bear and Joe Pa liked one another and set the behavior pattern years ago and we always appreciated you sending Joe Namath South...we adopted him long ago and consider him one of us...this will be buckle your chin strap old school smash
    mouth football...we are all honored to be in Happy Valley with the salt of the earth PA
    folk...

    PS sure miss those high black top shoes your guys use to wear...

    This post was edited by Tdown01 on 9/8/2011 at 11:57 PM

    Tdown01

  • Really enjoyed reading your coments

    Ledrick_1914

  • bmorepsu said...

    Question for Bama fans: and let me preface it with the fact that I've thought since last September that TR is THE best back in the country. Ok question - how did he only manage 37 yds on 13 carries last week? Even if the 3 TDs were on goal line totes, which i know they werent, that would mean he gained 34 yds on the other 10 carries.

    He barely played. Out of his 13 rushes, 3 were short yard tds. If he had 26 carries, I think he would've broken one. But he played early and left, we need his energy this week a lot more.

    His backups are good too. Lacy may have been a 5 star if his grades were better in high school.

    ReasonableDoubt

  • Vandy_95 said...

    JTNITTANY hit it on the head. It's going to be about limiting mistakes.

    He mentioned it in regard to PSU, but Bama's worries lie there as well. If Bama can play mistake free ball, we feel pretty good. But the young QB's and their INTs from last week scare me. The heavy rain this week, and possible rain on Saturday, mean that this could be an old school mudder. If that's the case, passing gets tougher, turnovers become an even bigger issue and the playing field gets even more level.

    The ability of the crowd to keep the pressure on our Oline and QBs will be a big deal as well. If Bama can score early and take the crowd out of it, we like our chances. But if PSU can score off of a pick-6 or something similar early, it could be a long, tense day for those of us wearing red in Happy Valley.

    Was Redd the guy the came on strong late in last year's game?

    Regardless, looking forward to drinking a beer or twelve with you guys before kickoff. Can't f-ing wait.

    Yea Redd had a few nice runs in last year's game if I remember correctly.

    Jay23