The Lions' Pride

I think the NCAA and PSU will say that these members do not speak for PSU and therefore, they will not hear the appeal. The BOT will try and get it heard in federal court, but that is not going to be easy either.

Also, if this goes to Federal court it may not be heard for years. By then the sanctions may be just about over unless they can get some injunction set soon.

Well I think the basis for the appeal is that there wasn't an official vote by the BOT.
And that simply inquiring with two people, Peetz being one of them, is not sufficient - therefore, Erickson still didn't have the authority to sign the consent.

My concern is if the corrupt members that have been seated for a while, simply eventually vote to accept Erickson's consent to the sanctions and have enough to get a majority. Can they do that with a pending case or appeal, though?

That would probably be the move. Get a federal court to apply an injunction to the sanctions. Then you can just create a mess - you can argue Psu could demand enforcement of the transfer rules. Bye bye all of those transfer eligibilities, unless the NCAA takes outrageous action...

And then you've got a new can of worms. There's a huge mess that is potentially there because the NCAA waived process. It is potential, so it's not realistic and probably won't happen.

He's been snookered. How could he in a world of "due process" after PSU asks for an appeal, say "oh really, well now we'll up your penalties" -- we would have total upper hand if that happened, he would look like an idiot (more of one). Even Goodell is reviewing Vilma's punishment, but could you imagine if Vilma walked into the appeal and came out with harsher for punishment for even questioning it?

Too late, once announced, unless new info comes up that he could say materially changes the case (which don't know how it could be more damning than Freeh Report), the worst we can get is what is already announced.

We can thank the breakthrough that Jonathon Vilma is having in federal court against Roger Goodell for this. When all else fails, take it to a Federal judge. I'm not even optimistic about the outcome, I'm just so happy to see that we are finally stepping up.

I won't thank that. Its awful and they aren't letting a Commish do his job. Sorry, not interested in being along those lines. I want the sanctions to be reduced but not by government over-stepping its boundaries.

Exactly. The sanctions were in lieu of potentially getting the death penalty. Take the sanctions off the table, and it's fair game again. We won't get off free and clear, and it won't be a slap on the wrist. Double edged sword.....

I think our government is WAY past overstepping its boundaries.

And at this point, it's either them or the NCAA. I'd rather have the one that works in our favor.

I understand that Emmert and Rod have opposing views on whether the death penalty was used as leverage.

If you ever feel the need to get really pissed off, I suggest reading ESPN comments on PSU stories. The trolls and morons that post on there are unreal.

I do understand the precedent this sets. But fact is, I'm already used to the government sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.

Frankly, the NCAA forced us into a situation where we have no other option. Yeah, OK, we could just take the pill and wait out another 8 years before we're competitive. What kind of a solution is that?

There's a lot of different directions this could have gone. NCAA could have done nothing. That would have been ideal. After the sanctions, I wouldn't have minded hearing some rumblings of the schools being upset with the power of the NCAA and thinking about leaving. Any one of these would have been best.

Unfortunately, when people or organizations just don't do the right thing, the last resort is to get the government involved. If the NCAA had kept its nose where it belongs, this wouldn't be an issue.