The Lions' Pride

Really?! Not forward-thinking? Then I guess all the people who support the Pitt-PSU rivalry aren't forward thinking including BOB? I actually think it would benefit PSU tremendously considering we would have a true rivalry game, would be playing in a major city that has a very large number of PSU alumni, yearly exposure to an area that even though its not what it was still produces a good number of quality recruits, and would provide economic stimulus to the state of PA and would probably provide a boost in season ticket sales. But no you're right let's keep playing teams like Indiana State because people are lining up to see that game! Congrats you've officially won the asshole of the month award!

always the straw-man argument in this debate. Indiana State is not a home and home series. If Pitt wants to play at Beaver Stadium every year, then you would have an apples to apples comparison.

You have to have home games to sell tickets. You are going to have a couple MAC or FCS teams on the schedule no matter what to fill up dates. Look at every schools' schedule.

Tickets will sell faster to a Penn State-Georgia game than a PSU-Pitt game.

1. BOB was most likely being P.C. with his answer. Did you notice his answer had zero to do with dollars & cents?

2. Commonwealth of PA constantly cuts its expeditures to Penn State. Now you think PSU should help to stimulate the economy of Pittsburgh ??

3. Propping lowly Pitt up for one weekend every season does not "help PSU tremenedously". Your opinion is just plain incorrect here.

4. Indiana State is not a "home & home" series. Another incorrect approach to your debate.

Besides, the MAC & D1-AA teams don't ask for much. They stop by to take their beating wearing a smile, and they gladly leave with a few handfuls of change that PSU finds hidden between the cushions on the sofa - Pitt College feels that they are above that arrangement.

5. "boost ticket sales" . . . . . LMFAO
Ask around. West of Wheeling, South of the Mason-Dixon line, North of I-80 and east of Altoona, hardly anyone cares about Pitt College. Sounds like you're a YInzer & rarely get outside of Allegheny County.

5. I might be an asshole, but at least I'm not mentally challenged like yourself.
Keep posting. How many times do you feel like being wrong in one afternoon?

idk, id rather play pitt then eastern mich, i feel since i have been around that our biggest rival is osu which sucks because they hate mich way more then us, pitt rivalry would give us something to talk about in the non conferance games at least, but if the pitt rivalry interfered with playing teams such as Bama then i give a solid 800 thumbs down

Great point . . . I think I'll be leaving for the day . . .

This place offers much better lurking, but not so much on the "discussion" end of things. This thread is Exhibit A.

Or maybe you should stop being a douche bag to anyone who doesn't have the same thought process as you. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean you have to call the person selfish and retarded. As much as this may be a shock to you, you aren't the 'smartest person in the room'. (See what I did there?)

The less you post on this board, the better. You literally contribute nothing but pissing matches.

Im not WSM biggest fan by any means, but I really don't understand what all he was wrong about here. Going forward here in a few years we have thise on a 12visit game schedule:

8 B1G games
1 Pac12 game

Now that leaves us with 3 games left. You really want Pitt to be one of them? Not much gained there. I mean 2 games are going to be MAC/CUSA/Sunbelt games. And our last one should be a TRUE ACC team. The Virginias, Carolinas, Geogria area teams.

Playing Pitt doesnt help PSU much. Not football wise at least. Yeah the fans get off on it, but it wont be a huge increase anywhere but Pittsburgh for Pitt.

Also comparing it to Miami/UF/FSU is ignorant. Those are national names and in a much bigger football state. Those teams can be bad and attract ESPN matchups, PSU/Pitt cant.

Now Pitt series once, maybe twice, a decade or so isnt a bad idea. But there's no huge benefit to PSU for this.

Well Pitt and WVU play on a Thursday, so no thanks. It also has (had) conference and thuse BCS implications.

And FSU/UM/UF is a whole different story than Pitt/PSU. One is big across the country, the other is big in PA.

The Pitt/PSU rivalry could be big, but it needs to be limited. It doesnt have the sex appeal the others do. It isnt Michigan/OSU, or the three way FL schools, or even Army/Navy. No one really remembers it, Pitt isnt good right now, and PSU hasnt had the national dominance to completely buoy the rivalry to big time (yet).

Why not? Football-wise Pitt's no better than an upper level MAC school but it's still one the 100 best universities in the country with a decent alumni base in the NE. The 2 don't go hand in hand. Also, it doesn't have the sex appeal that others do b/c it isn't played anymore. People tuned into watch OSU/Michigan even when OSU was killing them every year b/c they knew it was an intense rivalry and people like to watch those games. That's they have things like "rivalry weeks."

assuming we win significantly more than we lose, rekindling the Pitt rivalry may help with recruiting in some of the areas that we have had issues. It is still a better win than the non-conf wins we get now if we are in contention at year end and personally I would rather see a Pitt/PSU game every year, a difficult non-confrence home and home ala Bama, or someone like Virginia and then one MAC type game. Having said that, the Pac 12 games could be the difficult non conf game once that kicks in but again.

Money aside, it is a better product and the team is a better team for it. Not sure how much that one home game a year would mean but if you want to be the only choice for the instate athletes and want to compete on a national stage, play BSC level non-conference games.

Just cause others do the same thing PSU does with its schedules doesn't mean we should continue to do it. Maybe some leadership away from $ and back to the game and the fans would be fitting for PSU. As a fan I would rather see a non conf schedule with say - ASU (Pac 12 game), Temple, Pitt, ACC/SEC team with two at home and two away every year. With the money PSU brings in from merchandising etc I think they could afford it. JMO.

Oh I understand that its about viewership, as much aas you may wish and think I am not stupid. I just feel that you are over stating the number of viewers that are likely to tune in. Penn State will get theirs, but the big audiences want the good rivalries. Thats where the swing viewers go, and that wouldnt be to this game. Itd be to a more important rivalry.

Get where you're coming from, just think that you're skewed as to how much this really matters. It'd be nice to have the rivalry back, sure. But thats not as important in the grand scheme really.

Either way is fine with me. BOB's program, let him do whaat he feels is right. Until it happens he's just pandering, imo.

No we can't. Football pays for the entire athletic budget. Our athletics basically break even and we avoid dipping into the general fund. Removing another home game will hurt immensely and we will not be able to sell the extra merchandise to makeup the difference.