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  • jimh74 said...

    I think Taylor defeats Dake this time.

    If Dake is allowed to stall like crazy and take injury timeouts when DT is about to score on him, then Taylor won't win. In the last two national finals matches, I think Kyle Dake has taken a grand total of one offensive shot. He'll sit back and tie up DT through the entire first period; then it will be a battle of attempted ride-outs. That plays into Dake's favor. Hopefully Taylor can get a takedown or two in this match and force Dake to come out of his defensive posture.

    PSUFlyers

  • PSUFlyers said...

    If Dake is allowed to stall like crazy and take injury timeouts when DT is about to score on him, then Taylor won't win. In the last two national finals matches, I think Kyle Dake has taken a grand total of one offensive shot. He'll sit back and tie up DT through the entire first period; then it will be a battle of attempted ride-outs. That plays into Dake's favor. Hopefully Taylor can get a takedown or two in this match and force Dake to come out of his defensive posture.

    Can't wait.

    GRS154

  • GRS154 said...

    I realize this is like saying that I like the $150k Maserati more than the $150k Bentley, but still..... can one of our resident wrestling gurus explain what it is about Ruth that gives him the edge over Taylor in these types of subjective evaluations?

    There is not much of a major difference between them other than Ruth having the same skillset at a heavier weight, which is much more difficult.

    Ruth is stronger, better in defense, and simply controls the pace of every match he's wrestled the past two years. His length l, strength, and athleticism set him apart.

    Either way, they are both great wrestlers and Taylor can be more entertaining to watch because he pushes the pace. Ruth on the other just controls the pace and is more patient for what he wants to do, but still does what he wants to do.

    Also, fwiw, Ruth also used to maul Taylor at practices to a point where they stopped them from wrestling each other anymore. I will say the major difference in that would be the weight and strength advantage for Ruth though.

    In all reality, they are both highly elite wrestlers that are dominating top competition at their respective weights. I think Ruth's is a little more impressive this year because his weight class is a little bit tougher this year.

    NitLionsGo

  • NitLionsGo said...

    Also, fwiw, Ruth also used to maul Taylor at practices to a point where they stopped them from wrestling each other anymore. I will say the major difference in that would be the weight and strength advantage for Ruth though.

    That's interesting, I hadn't heard that story! I wonder if they wrestled in practice a weight class apart or in training when they were both around the same weight?

    GRS154

  • GRS154 said...

    That's interesting, I hadn't heard that story! I wonder if they wrestled in practice a weight class apart or in training when they were both around the same weight?

    They were two weights apart when they wrestled in practice. Last year the big four mainly wrestled with coaches, former wrestlers, or each other in respective weight pairings. Wright and Ruth, DT and Molinaro.

    Random fun fact: I used to train with QW when he was younger, some time to break the tension, the kid would throw on a kilt and blast the bagpipes (and he's ridiculously good too). Great kid all around, not afraid to be vocal and loud from the get go, even as a true freshman.

    As much attn DT and Ed get, Quentin is a key emotional leader for this team and is technique wise better than both of those guys. Just had worse luck with injuries and not the same amount of time under Cael.

    There's a reason why Cael went straight after QW in his first practice with the team when he became the coach because he wanted them to know that Cael was still better than the best wrestler on their team. Sure as heck got their attention and they bought in immediately.

    NitLionsGo

  • I will also add that Cael made the team immediately start working on their non-dominant sides in wrestling from the get go too. Wanted them to be uncomfortable so they don't resort to just one strength on the mat. Simply things like starting on top from the opposite side or shooting in on the opposite side. This is tough to do because wrestlers are creatures of habit and instinct an he broke what was natural to them all and refined their habits and instincts to be able to wrestle from any angle possible.

    IE: Molinaro used to dominate matches and never worked as hard on bottom. He got handled by Dake and the coaches and his teammates worked him from both sides on bottom all off season long. Well the rest is history now.

    These coaches aren't afraid to rebuild great talent by breaking these guys down and adding to their arsenal. Cael is a great coach and can't wait for him to blow up on the high school camp circuit as well.

    NitLionsGo

  • NitLionsGo said...

    I will also add that Cael made the team immediately start working on their non-dominant sides in wrestling from the get go too. Wanted them to be uncomfortable so they don't resort to just one strength on the mat. Simply things like starting on top from the opposite side or shooting in on the opposite side. This is tough to do because wrestlers are creatures of habit and instinct an he broke what was natural to them all and refined their habits and instincts to be able to wrestle from any angle possible.

    IE: Molinaro used to dominate matches and never worked as hard on bottom. He got handled by Dake and the coaches and his teammates worked him from both sides on bottom all off season long. Well the rest is history now.

    These coaches aren't afraid to rebuild great talent by breaking these guys down and adding to their arsenal. Cael is a great coach and can't wait for him to blow up on the high school camp circuit as well.

    Great insight, thanks!

    GRS154