The Lions' Pride

yea - they have to do something and that means lowering ticket prices

i mean part of the ticket prices is paying for the product on the field and they need to make that adjustment

To quote that guy, "It's the economy stupid"

Hard to justify spending the money on an inferior product. HD Television has really made attending football games a tough call. Either go to the stadium and drop a ton of coin, or watch it at home with no lines for the bathroom and the ability to drink to your hearts content.

Didn't the university make it's biggest athletic profits by far last year?

they have to realize they will have to adjust prices for next year -

There are also other things going on that are proabbly cheaper. I know last weekend was Farm Aid in Hershey with Neil Young, Dave, Matthews, and Kenny Chesney among other things.

Now is the time for administration to make some kind of move that would seem University friendly.

Those people out there that talk about JVP and the "Football Culture" might soon realize that many people had their hands in that culture and got fed pretty nicley. Lot of folks gonna miss their piece of the pie if that stadium isn't filled 7 times a year.

It also throws out one of BOB's recruting tools abouit not needing a bowl because you will be playing in front of 110,000 fans every game.

But then again, the AD's past job was as a medical doctor, so I am sure he is totally aware of what to do. Maybe when Tim Curley wins his case he can get a job as a Brain Surgeon.

Haven't you heard? Profit is evil and we shouldn't care about money.

According to 50% of the people here college football isn't and shouldn't be about money.

So if we sell 90k tickets to a game and UI sells out at 40k it doesn't matter because it doesn't look as nice on tv?

Yep, gotcha. Good sound logic there.

Not to mention if you want to spend a night in State College the hotels bleed you for every penny, making it massively expensive to do anything but day trips.

Add in that most people have a 4-6 hour drive round trip, and the traffic you have to sit in on 322 if you're leaving to the south, and how great the games look in HD (and you get replays at home, but not in the stadium!) and people can stay home to catch the game.

My wife and I both love going to the games and will continue to attend some games every year, but when you only have the weekend to get things done, it's a lot easier to spend 4 hours watching the game on TV and have the rest of the day to do things than it is to get up early and spend an entire day driving there and back.

Now add in the tickets costing even more money in a bad economy, an administration that placed the blame entirely on the football program and did not stand up for our University whatsoever, and you get a lag in attendance. What did they think would happen when they decided to blame the cash cow for all the problems after jacking up ticket prices? Those people on the BOT are supposed to be business "leaders"? No wonder our economy is in shambles.

It's like they completely disregarded everything they learned in Smeal. What they did is akin to Apple getting rid of the Iphone if Steve Jobs was accused of a cover up.

Here's some simple economics, let me stay at a hotel for a reasonable price and I'll spend more money in the town buying PSU gear, eating out, etc. When you jack up the prices people can't afford to go to the games or stay in the hotels and therefore spend less money in the town. And when the product on the field suffers thanks in part to our Administration sacrificing the football program, people have less incentive to spend their time and money on the product.

I feel bad for BOB, instead of taking over a sleeping giant of a program, our very own Administration has slain the giant in it's sleep.

I think its between you two. I was pointing out pretty backwards logic by you though. It was an example more than anything. UI's stadium fits actually about 60k, but they never sell out. Even if they did, their ticket prices are much lower than ours.

Honestly, I think the biggest problem PSU seems to have is a rigid price on their tickets. Closer to game time they still want full list price, that's idiotic. Just bad business to take nothing instead of coming down.

Granted I could see them worried about people taking advantage of that, but that will have to be shown over time.

I said profit matters in like my second sentence... I said that in our unique situation perception matters as well. The idea is to find a balance to where you can keep the profits high and lower the price to enable more packed seats... Obviously something needs to be adjusted to account for the empty 15,000 seats. I think that the STEP donations need to be adjusted to reflect current conditions... I also agree with you that they need to adjust prices when you get close to game time. That just doesn't make sense. Again though, what are the actual numbers? Their unwillingness to adjust is concerning to me... It isn't working, make it work. That doesn't mean that your eyes aren't consistently focused on profits the entire time. AGAIN, PROFITS MATTER. But adjust it, because it isnt working...

I don't think it's working... Despite the argument that profits are high. I think you can do both. And the goal should always be to get better. Not just rest on your laurels and say, "that's how we do things"... That old mindset needs to GTFO and is part of the way we got in this mess. No more sitting on their asses and saying look how good everything is. Strive to get better. I don't see anything wrong with that.

But see, the profit does matter (which I get you agree) but it matters so much more than everything else. Its what funds EVERY other sport. Its how PSU is going to pay that big fine. It pays for all the extra travel we will have to do for recruiting now. It goes into the normal student body.

I get seeing those seats suck, and Idk the new numbers and it wasn't what I was addressing with that post, but that matters much less than the actual amount brought in. A lot less.

Im sure thats pretty common 59