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That list has to be 2 years old:
Marcus Freeman suffered a career ending injury with the Bears and is currently the LB coach at Toledo.
You didn't mention: Thad Gibson (not that big a miss but still...), Larry Grant (was starting with the Rams and 49ers).
And I know you mentioned Hawk but what you did you know that he has led the Packers in tackles all but 1 season? He's also in their top 5 for interceptions every year but 1 so far. The Pro Bowl- as long as there is Clay Matthews he won't be voted in.
Honestly I think the kid is looking at the coaching staff instead of the paint and logo on the field. Penn State's coordinators are good but Fickel and Vrabel (with his 3 super bowl rings- not bad for a Buckeye linebacker huh?) are super stars. I didn't say they were better I said they were stars and apparently that's what Anzalone likes.
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And the list is from cbssportsline. Sorry if I don't know all of the current OSU players and their histories off the top of my head
. The omissions don't change the premise. PSU LB's are clearly more successful currently in the NFL. It's not even arguable when you look at those lists.
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That list has to be 2 years old:
Marcus Freeman suffered a career ending injury with the Bears and is currently the LB coach at Toledo.
You didn't mention: Thad Gibson (not that big a miss but still...), Larry Grant (was starting with the Rams and 49ers).
And I know you mentioned Hawk but what you did you know that he has led the Packers in tackles all but 1 season? He's also in their top 5 for interceptions every year but 1 so far. The Pro Bowl- as long as there is Clay Matthews he won't be voted in.
Honestly I think the kid is looking at the coaching staff instead of the paint and logo on the field. Penn State's coordinators are good but Fickel and Vrabel (with his 3 super bowl rings- not bad for a Buckeye linebacker huh?) are super stars. I didn't say they were better I said they were stars and apparently that's what Anzalone likes.
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buckperry said...
That list has to be 2 years old:
Marcus Freeman suffered a career ending injury with the Bears and is currently the LB coach at Toledo.
You didn't mention: Thad Gibson (not that big a miss but still...), Larry Grant (was starting with the Rams and 49ers).
And I know you mentioned Hawk but what you did you know that he has led the Packers in tackles all but 1 season? He's also in their top 5 for interceptions every year but 1 so far. The Pro Bowl- as long as there is Clay Matthews he won't be voted in.
Honestly I think the kid is looking at the coaching staff instead of the paint and logo on the field. Penn State's coordinators are good but Fickel and Vrabel (with his 3 super bowl rings- not bad for a Buckeye linebacker huh?) are super stars. I didn't say they were better I said they were stars and apparently that's what Anzalone likes.
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Remind me how many all-conference performers Vrabel has coached at OSU? How exactly is he a super star coach? Don't be a fool. Vanderlinden and Johnson TOWER over the two clowns you mention as far as development. Don't kid yourself. Bringing up the three Super Bowl rings for Vrabel as ammo towards his superstar label is absolutely retarded. They prove he is a good coach exactly how? I'll wait ...
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That list has to be 2 years old:
Marcus Freeman suffered a career ending injury with the Bears and is currently the LB coach at Toledo.
You didn't mention: Thad Gibson (not that big a miss but still...), Larry Grant (was starting with the Rams and 49ers).
And I know you mentioned Hawk but what you did you know that he has led the Packers in tackles all but 1 season? He's also in their top 5 for interceptions every year but 1 so far. The Pro Bowl- as long as there is Clay Matthews he won't be voted in.
Honestly I think the kid is looking at the coaching staff instead of the paint and logo on the field. Penn State's coordinators are good but Fickel and Vrabel (with his 3 super bowl rings- not bad for a Buckeye linebacker huh?) are super stars. I didn't say they were better I said they were stars and apparently that's what Anzalone likes.
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Vrabel does not matter to AA, but seriously how are those 2 guys superstars? Made me chuckle a bit. Vrabel has been a coach for a year and is not even the LB coach anymore.
They might be superstars in the Bucknut circle, but I would doubt they would be considered "superstars" outside of that circle.
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I do believe I said you probably have the better coach. Not once did I bad mouth any of your coaches. I'm just saying some kids get stars in their eyes. That's it. I never said that makes him a good coach not did I ever insinuate that his rings make him a good coach. Please find the point in my post where I flamed the PSU coaching staff. I'll wait.
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I do believe I said you probably have the better coach. Not once did I bad mouth any of your coaches. I'm just saying some kids get stars in their eyes. That's it. I never said that makes him a good coach not did I ever insinuate that his rings make him a good coach. Please find the point in my post where I flamed the PSU coaching staff. I'll wait.
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MTayl72 said...
You are mistaking superstars for better coaches. Those rings help Vrabel, he's a big name to kids that age. I really don't think the Buckeye misspoke there. Kids want the flash and Vrabel has some bling. Is what it is.
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Hamilton Lion said...
The 18 year old kids who play linebacker know he is the LB coach at PSU. They know he has produced several pro linebackers who have done very very well. Vrabel??? 14 years, one all-pro year (probably because he was 10th in line and nine rejected to go to the game). You are making him out to sound like Mean Joe Green. The guy had a long career, but don't be a fool son. He wasn't a focal part of those title teams. The punter played a bigger part and I'm a Patriot fan.
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