The Lions' Pride

It comes down to OSU honors college vs PSU. Even if somehow they'd be able to offer him the honors college at PSU, which they aren't able to... He will still have a harder time due to the requirements outside of general coursework that are specific to PSU's hc degree. PSU hasn't offered him the ability to take graduate credits whilst playing football, and they aren't giving him as much credit for his AP classes (he has 36 sp far, and will probably earn 12 more during the 1st half of next year). So he won't start off with as much of a lead, and won't be able to have them pay for an MBA from what we've been told. OSU, USC, and UF are the schools that we've looked into that will allow him to graduate with a MBA while playing 4 years.

Posas, isn't it true that many MBA programs will not accept anyone without work experience? IIRC, Wharton has that policy. If I was Alex, I'd go to Stanford and parlay that into a hell of a lot better business school than OSU's.

He will have to do internships in the summer while lifting. IMO semesters abroad are glorified vacations in most circumstances, I never did one, bc it never fit in my premed schedule, so I'm sure Alex isn't at a great loss. Football players can't just abandon their teammates to go to abroad. Internships are commonplace for the business students at OSU, they do them in the summer, just like at PSU, Stanford, etc. There are several players who have managed to do the BA/MBA track. It's not for everyone, and it's far from ideal, but at least you're not paying out of pocket. He is evaluating all the factors, but the whole, "what happens if I have a career ending injury?" question seems to be best answered by OSU... I come out with a MBA from a legit business school and hopefully get a job.

Keep the blinders on and go back to your sheltered existence. It's ridiculous that idiots such as yourself come here and comment as if anyone cares about your opinion.

Wait, Hold on... Was the co-ed thing ever confirmed? O wait, no it hasnt. You guys talk so much shit about urban and 95% is a bunch of bullshit....

You are such a delusional person for believing this guy is as genuine as he comes across. He'd sell his mother, and trade in his wife (already did) for a better deal. Everyone in America knows the guy is a fraud including his wife and kids - the only exceptions are your fan base and sadly the recruits and parents of the recruits who buy his sales job without doing any proper research on the guy.

Again, if you don't like the conversation, or its getting too rough for you, why visit and post here?

Shouldn't you be at work? The McDonalds drive thru is still open.

Yeah, it reminds me of a certain red and gray fanbase.

Who cares if the co-ed thing wasn't "confirmed"? Last I checked, that doesn't consist of 95% of the arguments against Urban. There's tons of stuff out there about him. Fool me once and all - people want to ignore what Urban's done because OSU fans think things are "different" now. OK, sure, but don't come attacking people (on our board no less) who think you're dreadfully ignorant if you think a dalmatian has suddenly shed his spots.

Still in college

The Urban co-ed rumors were not started on this board. You cannot seriously think that? Spend some time in Florida, its pretty strong down there. Not saying its true, I don't know and I don't care. None of my business and he's a coach so he is judged by wins and losses in my book.

As for mopping the floor, I wasn't a big BOB fan. But I tell you what, if we win, and we will win no program is going to own eachother forever, I guarantee you never show up. Now if you want to talk football, I'm game. But I highly doubt you know anything about football. Anything. Period.

Almost forgot my form response:

Ugh, another idiot Buckeye fan. Please reflect the quality of your true fanbase, who are some of the best fans I have ever met. You are an embarrassment to them. Urban Meyer is not perfect, I'm sorry to say. He is a fantastic coach though. But you should notice, especially lately, he left a lot of problems in Gainesville. That is not speculation, that is fact. Maybe you will grow up one day and better represent Buckeye Nation.

You guys must know Urban at an awfully close level. With making accusations about the person he is, or even restating things you've read off the internet. Which by the way, is a horrible thing to do. Never, ever take what the internet says for fact. Too many people with too many agenda's an a basic understanding of how a computer works. Everyone knows that Urban is a fraud? Huh, have you ever listened to the guy talk? He isn't a bullshitting kind of guy, but seeing as I know as much as you guys do about Urban, that would be an assumption too. Have you guys ever had a person in your life, that is known as the horrible guy, only to actually talk to him and get to know him? Then, you realize that hey this guy is actually a great guy. I'm not saying Urban is perfect or morally corrupt. I am just saying that you guys should actually get to know a person before you pass such harsh judgments on him. The bad part of this all is that it makes you guys look like whiners because you did not get him. All these harsh words from a fan base that a couple months ago, would love to have this guy at the helm of their program.

Absolutely fair, legitimate analysis. In my opinion, there is little difference between a 4 year BA and a 4 year MBA.

MBAs are different than MDs. With an MD you have legal authority to practice your craft. MBAs are noticed, but without experience, it offers limited value without the perspective & seasoning that come with experience.

Undergrad business education from PSU likely offers similar opportunities as a 4 year BA/MBA from OSU.
(PSU Wall Street Journal #1 ranking by corporate recruiters). That IS NOT a slight against the OSU degree. Just an estimate of the value of the masters without experience.

My question on team-work and the MBA was not about football teammates. It was about his project-teammates. The 4-5 people all MBAs work with daily to complete coursework. My question was the impact on them, if one of theirs is not available for team meetings. What would Alex miss in that scenario?

I guess I don't understand fully the need to rush it? Real learning takes place in these classes. AND the MBA will be there later after getting a few years under his belt in the workforce. It makes the experience SOOOO much better. It only takes 1-2 years. It's not the slog that you're dealing with at Med School. AND Business School after a few years working often gives people the opportunity to re-asses their industry, corporate function (do I want to move from sales to finance? manufacturing to marketing? etc).

3-5 years into a business career is a great time to make that call. You know more of what you want at that point. The MBA allows you to pause, and dedicate yourself to a direction for the next 20 years of WORKING! Trust me - there is time.

Honestly, the most marketable degree you've mentioned is Stanford's. Between PSU BA & OSU (BA/MBA) I don't see a massive difference.

Thanks for listening to me on this..

May be you should take your own advice and take it back to your board.