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psubills62 said...
"Seven games" is your only reasoning? Nick Saban only won 7 games his first year at Alabama, which I believe were under sanctions at the time or at least recovering from them. Sorry, but I don't follow that logic. You always have to consider the circumstances. I think there are very few coaches who could have won us 7 games in this situation. BOB deserves a raise.
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LaJollaLion said...
Saban had been a SEC HC that won a MNC before. Not exactly apples to apples either. He doesn't deserve a raise after one year when he already got a 4 year extension in year one. If he leaves because he didn't get a raise after one year, it wasn't meant to be. How many schools or NFL teams say let's go find a guy that costs us 20 million before we even see him. People are going a little crazy right now IMO....no raise and if he bails, you find another good HC. You sink your money into successful 1st year coaches, sometimes you dig a bigger whole than you can afford to get out of. Let's not forget PSU is already 60 million deep thanks to Jerry piece of **** Sandusky.
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LaJollaLion said...
Saban had been a SEC HC that won a MNC before. Not exactly apples to apples either. He doesn't deserve a raise after one year when he already got a 4 year extension in year one. If he leaves because he didn't get a raise after one year, it wasn't meant to be. How many schools or NFL teams say let's go find a guy that costs us 20 million before we even see him. People are going a little crazy right now IMO....no raise and if he bails, you find another good HC. You sink your money into successful 1st year coaches, sometimes you dig a bigger whole than you can afford to get out of. Let's not forget PSU is already 60 million deep thanks to Jerry piece of **** Sandusky.
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Itsmelen said...
No, he doesn't. His reps and penn state negotiated a deal last year that everyone was comfortable enough to sign. They all get the benefit of that bargain, which means psu should be able to continue paying him at its negotiated salary. He doesn't get a raise after 11 months because he "outperformed his contract" like Terrell Owens. Would you be advocating for Penn State to push his salary down if they had gone 3-8 so far this year? Let me answer that for you: of course you wouldn't. O'Brien doesn't have any leverage here because no one is going to pay an $18m buyout plus give him a raise over his $16m in remaining guaranteed salary. The last guy to get a 10 year deal was charlie weis and that didn't exactly work out well for ND.
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psubills62 said...
Never said it was apples to apples. But the point is obvious (and is still legitimate): that the worth of a coach is not necessarily on par with simply the number of wins. Situation has to always be considered.
I never said we needed to give him a raise. I do think he deserves one, and if he looks to leave, I'd give him one in the blink of an eye. Continuity is very valuable at this point in the program, especially given the upcoming offseason.
I'm not one who is panicking over every non-statement, because I think he's going to stay. That said, it's possible he'll look around, and if that's the case, I say he should get a raise.
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LaJollaLion said...
No way would I give a raise to a 1st year guy knowing I have 3 years left on probation. I would thank him for his time and wish him the best of luck if he tried. I just would not trust any HC that pulled this in their first year there. What do you do in next year or the following year? I would look for someone with a better moral compass and I think BOB has one so I'm not to worried there. If he does try and hold the school hostage, take the 18 million and go forward. Then in 3 years when you are coming off probation go ahead and make a big splash somehow. No way do you flinch in year 1, it means you were played by that HC and he was full of it anyway. I know it's a different game, but raises after one year minus a MNC are bogus IMO. Even then you set yourself up for a huge buyout if you don't like the guy in year 2-3...just ask ND or Auburn.
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LaJollaLion said...
It may buy you another year or two and your still on probation with a coach who was looking to bail in year #1. I'm not sure how that buys stability? It buys you another year and he wins again, you're in the same spot. If he starts taking a step back you have a 14-15 million dollar coach/buyout that you can't fire because you were afraid of the future.
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PSU17 said...
Even if he were to leave next year the impact to the program would be monumentally less.
We would have the possibility of losing a recruiting class then, not an entire team. For PSU to have any shot to turn this around any time soon, we need stability in coaching this year.
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Allentown Morning Call - BOB's buyout