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  • Goalieman688 said...

    So you have rivals that with the exception of VA Tech have not put a great product on the field in years. Sounds good to me

    I'd rather be welcomed by them than stay in a conference that has turned its back on Penn State. This is the 3rd time this damned conference has turned its back on Penn State.

    1. When PSU joined: It takes us 4 freakin years to get on the schedule? Nebraska joins and 3 months later they are included in the scheduling?

    2. 1994. Nuff said. Same situation in 1997, and the entire conference bent over backwards to make sure the golden child of the conference got their title.

    3. This whole situation. Ohio State doesn't have to repay their bowl money for being bowl ineligible. Penn State does. Jim Delaney begs, borrows and steals to get 5 ineligible players for Ohio State to play in a bowl game vs Arkansas...and what does he do to Penn State? He piles on. I really wish those presidents had the damned stones to just boot PSU. PSU isn't welcome in the Big Ten, nor has it ever been welcome in the conference.

    Why stay somewhere where A) You aren't respected, B) You aren't welcome and C) When there's a better fit for the University and the athletic programs?

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  • Again, football-wise, it makes sense. I'd welcome it. The only football argument against it is the college football prestige in the Big Ten is still going to be considerably higher than the ACC, even if ND joined. See the link below. It points out that being near a population center does not create a fan base.

    Money/academic-wise, it's not going to make sense for the next decade or two. Especially considering the Big Ten would have to kick us out. IIRC, the penalty for leaving the Big Ten right now is a loss of your TV rights for 20 years or something.

    The Geography of College Football Fans (and Realignment Chaos) - NYTimes.com

    The possible realignment of college football conferences raises a host of interesting questions about fan loyalty.

    thequad.blogs.nytimes.com

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  • yalikeMoxie said...

    Again, football-wise, it makes sense. I'd welcome it. The only football argument against it is the college football prestige in the Big Ten is still going to be considerably higher than the ACC, even if ND joined. See the link below. It points out that being near a population center does not create a fan base.

    While the Big 10 was respected 10+ years ago, I am not so sure now. Yeah, we love Big Ten football, but the rest of the country views it as old school and slow. SEC has won 6, probably 7 NC's, unless USC can beat an SEC team in the NC. In a few years, the ACC, SEC, Big 12 and Pac 10 will look even more different. I think we should be proactive. I would rather play in the ACC. It will help recruiting, and we might just be wanted in that conference. The mid-west players have lacked the speed and talent like the SEC and PAC 10.

    Plus basketball wise it would be awesome to see Duke, UNC, Pitt, Wake, Clemson, G Tech, and even ND come to Happy Valley.

    Maybe the money is too much to give up, I really don't know. Everyone keeps saying it is, but no one really has provided an answer to the R and D financing on why it would change?

    drken22

  • I mean the big ten network is $20 million a year and there is no other conference that comes close to that kind of deal. SEC is starting to move in that direction and we will see.

    Goalieman688

  • drken22 said...

    While the Big 10 was respected 10+ years ago, I am not so sure now. Yeah, we love Big Ten football, but the rest of the country views it as old school and slow.

    B1G football sucks, and is not respected by the rest of the country.

    We get our asses kicked in BCS games, unless there's a game against somebody like last year's VaTech team. I can't think of a legitimate national title contender the last few seasons other than Wisconsin, and I think they would've gotten creamed by Bama or LSU last year.

    OSU is always overrated, and get shown up in BCS games.

    I don't respect the B1G, and I'm a student here. As a fan from the South, not many people respect Big Ten football unless you're from that part of the country.

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  • Big Ten - only because I live in Illinois. Otherwise, I would be all for a move to the ACC. Our "brothers" in the BIG have never had our backs.... You can bet if OSU or Michigan were in our place, they would have banned in conference transfers, appealed to the NCAA, etc......

    waylander