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A critique of the site...

  • I know you guys told us to be open about any critiques...so here is one.

    I think the "points" system involving giving other posters "+1" or "-1" for their posts...hence creating a fictitious "star" ranking for each poster...is really a waste of time. I didn't even understand the premise or how these rankings were being generated until Sneakypete explained it to me last week. Now, looking all over the board at many posts from numerous posters receiving "-1" ratings for straightforward comments...it seems a little pointless to me. I'm sure that many others enjoy the feature and think it's clever. But when I come on here, it's to talk about PSU football with other adults...whether I agree with them or not. Having imaginary ratings, which are based on nothing other than whether someone "likes" or "agrees" with your opinions, is really not the point of this site...IMO. It doesn't measure the value of the contribution in any way. Everyone's opinions are valid to me. Why is one paying customer a 3* and another a 5*? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but these sites don't need to turn into popularity contests. It's simply one distracting feature that I could do without.

    Again, I'm sure many people enjoy it, and they can all give me "-1"s, make me into a 1* poster, and think it's funny. But to me, it doesn't make the site any better.

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    tdiddy

  • Tdiddy, I agree and I'm not a big fan of it either. We are after all, ALL Penn State fans. We all have our opinions and ideas, theories and thoughts, and that is what we are all dong here, sharing those thoughts and discussing others, constructively. Yeah, it can get heated and posters butt heads, but that's the point right? We all LOVE PSU!!

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  • A third person in agreement. This is a message board, not a popularity contest and those who post non Kool Aide things sometimes get slammed in the popularity star contest. I'd rather that we just ID the number of posts each member has and that is all. I see this area on other sites and how it becomes a dysfunctional way for lurkers to punish a poster who has a view differing from their own.

    We all have differing views hence the message board. As long as no one gets personal and takes shots at another poster I'm pretty much OK with the rest.

    All in all this is a great site with a wide range of opinion, expertise and commentary, a healthy board!!!! Great site Sean.

    FG Dreadnought

  • I can't say I disagree to be honest with you. I will make sure the 247 guys are aware. Thanks for the opinion, remember they're always welcome here.

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  • I get "-1" because I said I didn't enjoy Gameday...loco

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    PK5

  • Im not for it or against it personally.

    I dont really care overall if I have all positive or negative "ratings".

    Personally, I will use it for a good well thought out post, be it positive or negative. Even if I am in complete disagreement. I respect both sides as well as the middle ground views on the boards.

    I do agree however with someone in this thread, there are lurkers and such that will just negative vote someone for differing from there view. However, the example given was that only critical views get this. Certainly not so. Post positive and that will be hit negatively by the less optimistic crowd. I dunno, to me it is what it is.

    If Diddy is rated by others as a 1 * or 5* it doesnt matter to me. Same with anyone else. I read his posts because I dont consider him a 1*. It takes a BUNCH to get me to quit reading your(general) posts.

    Besides, Im certainly not a STAR guy! toot (I just hadnt used this one yet lol)

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    Seltz

  • agree diddy. It's not needed IMO.

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    LaJollaLion

  • I agree with everything in this thread, but I have a question on editing posts.

    In another thread I clicked the "quote original post in reply" button so I could see the post while writing my response. I accidentally forgot to unclick it before I posted and when I clicked edit post it wouldn't let me take it out. Not a big deal, but I like boards that have minimal clutter.

    PSUfan28

  • PK5 said...

    I get "-1" because I said I didn't enjoy Gameday...

    Haha, I got a "-1" for that one. How did I know that was coming?

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  • PK you earned the -1 before but as a whole the thing sucks

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  • Let me just reiterate that I absolutely love this site. It is so refreshing from the other options on the marketplace, with which we are all familiarized. I just see that feature as a potential cause for the same types of personal squabbles and assorted nonsense which make the other sites unreadable. I just don't want that here. I love what this site represents, and I guess I'm being slightly protective of it.

    Again, sorry for the ranting. Just trying to present an honest opinion of something which can help preserve the alternative atmosphere that is lions247.

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    tdiddy

  • tdiddy lets be honesy any rating system that has me below you is total crap lynchmob

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    philafan

  • philafan said...

    PK you earned the -1 before but as a whole the thing sucks

    I earned it because I said I didn't like Gameday...? That would be like saying "I don't like tacos", and giving me a -1 because of it. That's stupid.

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  • philafan said...

    tdiddy lets be honesy any rating system that has me below you is total crap

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    tdiddy

  • philafan said...

    tdiddy lets be honesy any rating system that has me below you is total crap

    Tee hee hee

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  • I had to -1 you for the lack of taco love PK and for the record I am joking around with you

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  • I definitely understand what people are saying, and I have to agree for the most part.

    However, the "up" and "down" voting system is similar to a system that I enjoy very much on another board: reputation. It's a little different than this, as people who don't have much reputation can't do much to affect other people's, while posters who have a lot of reputation can seriously influence other people's (whether positive or negative).

    When it comes to people who post on here, if you are familiar enough with the board and the various posters, you'll come to know who is good and who isn't.

    My thought is that the "up" and "down" votes will become important mainly as these boards become more and more popular, and trolls start appearing. If a guy has a 10% rating, it's obvious that it's probably better to ignore him than reply.

    Sean, out of curiosity, are there any restrictions planned for people if their rating gets below a certain amount? Are there limitations on the number of up or down votes you can give to one person in a time period? With the other site that I mentioned before, you have to "spread" reputation among other people before you can give it to the same person again.

    Again, it's just some thoughts. I don't think "rating" is a good way of using the system, because someone might be a good poster, they just express their opinion more than others and thus get deducted by people who aren't in agreement. I also don't agree with people who use a "down" vote simply because they disagree with someone. Nobody's going to entirely agree with another person on a message board, that's just the facts of life (well, one of the lesser ones). whistling

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  • Maybe leave it up to Sean and the other Admin to monitor the +1's and -1's.

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  • philafan said...

    I had to -1 you for the lack of taco love PK and for the record I am joking around with you

    I actually love tacos.woot

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  • psu2013 said...

    Maybe leave it up to Sean and the other Admin to monitor the +1's and -1's.

    But do really want Sean wasting his time on this?

    PSUfan28

  • I honestly know very little of the rating system. Though I do try to give out some +1 ratings, it's really not one of the things I pay much attention to on the site... although I do have a 100 rating.. moon

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  • PSUfan28 said...

    But do really want Sean wasting his time on this?

    Nahh but I do believe him or one of the Admins read everypost on this site already to monitor it. It would only add a second if they believe the poster added a good impact to the discussion. Not saying they should, just an idea to if they wanted to utilize the rating system.

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    I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.

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  • I just laughed out loud. After posting on this subject my rating was lowered for the first time proving my original point. It happens on every site that has ratings. People are people and when you can hide on a site like this the internet muscles emerge.

    FG Dreadnought

  • PK5 said...

    Haha, I got a "-1" for that one. How did I know that was coming?

    I bumped you back up. You deserve better!! LOL!

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  • I think a much more enjoyable ratings system would be...everyone starts as a 1*. You can only give +1's to other posts. A poster hits 25 "+1"s, he's a 2*. 50, he's a 3*. 75, he's a 4*. 100, he's a 5*. Then, we cut out the strange random "-1" posts and people are in competition to create both quanity and quality posts worthy of a +1.

    IMO, no one should get "downgraded" for expressing their opinion. But everyone should get rewarded for quality. Then "elite" status is garnered by generating the greatest quantity of quality.

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