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2014 Hoops Recruiting Updates...

  • As the high school season winds down and AAU starts to ramp up, going to start putting updates on 2014 players in this thread.

    I attached a matrix to show the scholarship situation going forward. Penn State is recruiting like there will be another player added in the 2014 class, for what it's worth.

    This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita on 2/25/2013 at 1:12 PM

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    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • 2014 PF Tory Miller tweeted earlier a top 4 in no order consisting of Colorado State, Marquette, Penn State and Nebraska. We caught up with him about a month ago.

    Tory Miller adding major offers

    Penn State is one of several major programs on the trail of New Hampshire 2014 big man Tory Miller.

    pennstate.247sports.com

    Tory Miller

    http://247sports.com/Player/Tory-Miller-21598

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    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    2014 PF Tory Miller tweeted earlier a top 4 in no order consisting of Colorado State, Marquette, Penn State and Nebraska. We caught up with him about a month ago.

    Colorado state? Is that a real school?

    "We have a culture of integrity. That's not new at Penn State and that's not going to get old at Penn State." -Bill O'Brien

    RXNitt

  • Will we have a scholarship open in 2014?

    BKHPSU

  • RXNitt said...

    Colorado state? Is that a real school?

    I'm not sure if you're kidding or not. They're from the MWC and made the NCAA tournament last season with Tim Miles at the helm, he parlayed that success into the Nebraska head coaching position.

    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • Miller seems like the kinda of player PSU is missing down low, no?

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    PSUjosh11 ●

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    I'm not sure if you're kidding or not. They're from the MWC and made the NCAA tournament last season with Tim Miles at the helm, he parlayed that success into the Nebraska head coaching position.

    Somewhat kidding. I remember hearing that miles was hired from there but they seem out of place in the final 4 to me

    "We have a culture of integrity. That's not new at Penn State and that's not going to get old at Penn State." -Bill O'Brien

    RXNitt

  • I'm guessing Ackerman and/or Graham are gone after this year... just my sense.

    Also, Andrew, heard any rumblings about Sasa and the staff changing their minds about his graduating and foregoing this final year of eligibility?

    GRS154 ●

  • RXNitt said...

    Colorado state? Is that a real school?

    And I'm sure right now somebody from Colorado State is reading that top four and asking themselves, "Penn State has a basketball team?"

    HolyLion ●

  • GRS154 said...

    I'm guessing Ackerman and/or Graham are gone after this year... just my sense.

    Also, Andrew, heard any rumblings about Sasa and the staff changing their minds about his graduating and foregoing this final year of eligibility?

    While Sasa has def been our best "big" this year we still need scholarships to open up in the worst way. I wish we could keep him for 1 more year and lose someone else but at this point in time every ship is HUGE for Pat and he needs that one

    treysway3

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    I'm not sure if you're kidding or not. They're from the MWC and made the NCAA tournament last season with Tim Miles at the helm, he parlayed that success into the Nebraska head coaching position.

    I couldn't figure out if he was serious or not either.

    CharlestonLion ●

  • HolyLion said...

    And I'm sure right now somebody from Colorado State is reading that top four and asking themselves, "Penn State has a basketball team?"

    Hahahahaha! I actually found MYSELF saying that at certain times this year!

    CharlestonLion ●

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    As the high school season winds down and AAU starts to ramp up, going to start putting updates on 2014 players in this thread.

    I attached a matrix to show the scholarship situation going forward. Penn State is recruiting like there will be another player added in the 2014 class, for what it's worth.

    So....by going by that matrix it looks as though one player is going to have to either leave the team or lose their schollie and walk on just to get them to even for the 2013-2014 year.

    CharlestonLion ●

  • CharlestonLion said...

    So....by going by that matrix it looks as though one player is going to have to either leave the team or lose their schollie and walk on just to get them to even for the 2013-2014 year.

    The four 2013 recruits are all signed, so they're locked in. Basically, either Jermaine isn't going to come back for his 5th year, a player will leave the team while continuing their education at Penn State, or someone will transfer out altogether. Remember, last year three players left the team (Alexis, Lewis and Glover).

    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    The four 2013 recruits are all signed, so they're locked in. Basically, either Jermaine isn't going to come back for his 5th year, a player will leave the team while continuing their education at Penn State, or someone will transfer out altogether. Remember, last year three players left the team (Alexis, Lewis and Glover).

    Right, there's usually attrition every year. My guess for normal attrition this year will be Ackerman and/or Graham. And by "normal attrition" I mean that the player and the coach will come to a mutual agreement that moving on would be in everyone's best interest.

    GRS154 ●

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    Basically, either Jermaine isn't going to come back for his 5th year.....

    This is the least likely scenario, IMO, and I'm not sure it's even an option--unless he gets in trouble off the court or academically between now and next October. It's just not plausible from what I know.... am I missing something?

    GRS154 ●

  • GRS154 said...

    This is the least likely scenario, IMO, and I'm not sure it's even an option--unless he gets in trouble off the court or academically between now and next October. It's just not plausible from what I know.... am I missing something?

    No you're not, just stating the possibilities when you look at the matrix.

    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • Andrew Dzurita said...

    No you're not, just stating the possibilities when you look at the matrix.

    Fair point.

    GRS154 ●

  • GRS154 said...

    Fair point.

    My guess is Ackerman will make the decision not to come back which will be mutual of course.

    That would make us even for the next two years. Of course someone else could leave.

    BKHPSU

  • RXNitt said...

    Colorado state? Is that a real school?

    Colorado State has more players in the NBA right now than Penn State does in Center Jason Smith (1st round pick in 2007 draft). Tim Miles really turned that program around and into a perennial contender after a debacle in his first season. The year Smith was on their roster, they had 3 7 footers on the roster, and all I could think to myself was, why can't we have even one 7 footer on the roster. My best friend went to CSU and he always gave me a hard time for them having more 7 footers than us.

    NitLionsGo

  • NitLionsGo said...

    Colorado State has more players in the NBA right now than Penn State does in Center Jason Smith (1st round pick in 2007 draft). Tim Miles really turned that program around and into a perennial contender after a debacle in his first season. The year Smith was on their roster, they had 3 7 footers on the roster, and all I could think to myself was, why can't we have even one 7 footer on the roster. My best friend went to CSU and he always gave me a hard time for them having more 7 footers than us.

    Plus, they are or at least were ranked in the top 25 this year with some good wins against quality opponents.

    Lion_in_CBus

  • 2014 PG Tre Campbell playing in the WCAC Championship game tomorrow night. We've got him at No. 141 overall, and Penn State has been consistently recruiting him since he was offered back in August.

    He's got a chance to reel in some nice offers this summer if he continues this high level of play that has led SJC to the WCAC title game.

    This post was edited by Andrew Dzurita on 2/25/2013 at 8:22 PM

    Tre Campbell

    http://247sports.com/Player/Tre-Campbell-23147

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    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • GRS154 said...

    This is the least likely scenario, IMO, and I'm not sure it's even an option--unless he gets in trouble off the court or academically between now and next October. It's just not plausible from what I know.... am I missing something?

    What you are missing is that PSU has a history of not yanking kids scholarships. There are really four possible options:

    1. Somebody unexpected transfers or leaves school
    2. Chambers and a player mutually agree to part ways.
    3. Chanbers yanks a kid's scholarship
    4. A fifth year senior is asked to not come back.

    While option 3 might seem like the obvious answer, Penn State has a history of not yanking kids' scholarships. If Chambers wanted to pull a ship from a kid and the kid wanted to fight it, there's a very good chance that the kid would get his ship back once his appeal was heard by the faculty senate. That leaves option 4 as quite possibly the only viable option should 1 or 2 not happen. With Sasa already saying he's not coming back, that would mean that either Marshall or Frazier's ship wouldn't be renewed (two guesses as to which one would get the short straw).

    This post was edited by UncleLar on 2/26/2013 at 3:53 PM

    UncleLar

  • 2014 commit Isaiah Washington and 2014 target Shep Garner are both playing in the first round of PIAA playoffs this weekend.

    Washington and his Williamsport squad play Liberty on Saturday at 7:00PM in Montoursville Area HS. If they win they'll face powerhouse Chester in the second round.

    Garner and Roman Catholic will be playing Norristown Area on Saturday at 5:00PM at La Salle College HS in Wyndmoor.

    Both teams received #1 seeds for their district and are favored to go on to the second round.

    For anyone in the area interested in seeing some post-season hoops, State College HS will be playing North Allegheny on Saturday at 7:00PM in Altoona.

    Isaiah Washington

    http://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Washington-17495

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    Shep Garner

    http://247sports.com/Player/Shep-Garner-21369

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    Andrew Dzurita ●

  • UncleLar said...

    What you are missing is that PSU has a history of not yanking kids scholarships. There are really four possible options:

    1. Somebody unexpected transfers or leaves school 2. Chambers and a player mutually agree to part ways. 3. Chanbers yanks a kid's scholarship 4. A fifth year senior is asked to not come back.

    While option 3 might seem like the obvious answer, Penn State has a history of not yanking kids' scholarships. If Chambers wanted to pull a ship from a kid and the kid wanted to fight it, there's a very good chance that the kid would get his ship back once his appeal was heard by the faculty senate. That leaves option 4 as quite possibly the only viable option should 1 or 2 not happen. With Sasa already saying he's not coming back, that would mean that either Marshall or Frazier's ship wouldn't be renewed (two guesses as to which one would get the short straw).

    Yea, I guess yanking a kid's scholarship would be the "least" likely scenario but I really wasn't considering it a possibility. So of the other thee, Marshall not coming back for his 5th year is the least likely of the plausible scenarios.

    GRS154 ●

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