The Lions' Pride

and yes you could have some completely valid and very good arguments for McGloin contained in that post...I chose to stop reading after the first sentence though out of disgust Not anything personal

MM is our QB we wont contend. You don't contend with Mac as your QB. Look what happened with the Wisconsin game.

The second DOB steps on campus, should he decide to play here, he's our starter. Mac is awful, nothing else. The only thing he ever did well was get knocked out.

Where does this fantasy that Matt is a leader come from? For only the most recent example, the kid ran his mouth in practice and got KNOCKED OUT by a real athlete, thus causing him to be unavailable for the bowl game, a game in which we were down 14-0 after having run 3 plays on offense. He led another person's fist into his face and cost our team a chance to compete. And their is word that he is already ticking off the new regime (unsubstantiated, but let's be honest, not unlikely). If Paterno wasn't a part-time coach by the time he got to campus, he would have been watching the games from the student section like every other kid who had no business dressing at a major football program. Again, Matt is many things, among them a terrible excuse for a major college quarterback, but a leader is not one of them.

Are you for real? Is this an OSU troll? A GOOD QB?! Gtfo. You must be joking. I can see someone preferring his play over Bolden, but if last year was the showing of a good QB you're brain will explode when we have an average QB come through here.

There is tremendous groupthink on this board about MM. His first year, he forced a lot of balls. In 2011 he was much better at throwing the ball away when nothing was open. I expect he'll be even smarter this year if he's the starter. As always, a lot depends on our OL, our receivers and our offensive scheme.

More than anything the MM controversy shows how Pat Devlin really screwed this team. He could have been the starter in 2010 and had a nice senior year that would have allowed MM or Rob Bolden to be the backup and Paul Jones to R/S. Instead, Bolden was forced into the starter role and really paid the price for his inexperience.

I stopped reading after the first sentence! Not worth arguing anymore.

And here's what baffles me re:McGloin. He should be a fan favorite! Scrappy lil guy from Scranton walks on and beats out all the big star QBs. That's the American dream. But the kid sucks so much, more because of the way he acts and talks and carries himself, that the fan base HATES him. How bad is that?! He's a fans dream and he blew it with all his BS. Wow.

I can't blame a kid if he just doesn't have it. Newsome didn't and he got beat out, so he went somewhere he could play. Blame the staff for thinking he could play when he couldn't. Newsome didn't screw PSU, mistakes in recruiting and evaluation and coaching screwed PSU.

He was not better in 2011, nor did he move the ball any better, save one game against directional nobody after an atrocious effort against Alabama and a meh effort against Temple. Maybe he would have moved the ball better against Houston, but he GOT KNOCKED OUT BY HIS OWN TEAMMATE IN THE LOCKER ROOM and was thereby unavailable for the game. That occurred at the end of his FOURTH YEAR in the program, so I'm not sure, unless you're joking, what makes you think he's going to be any smarter with the ball or as a representative of this program. An argument can be made (incorrectly in my opinion) that he should be our starter, but couple that with the FACT that he is a terrible representative of what a PSU QB should be off the field, in front of the media, in the gd locker room, etc, and you have all the answer you need.

Again, I have to assume you are joking.

EXACTLY. I would always pull for these types of kids....but his attitude from day 1 destroyed it for me and it never got better, even as late as the prior to the bowl game.

Not sure it's groupthink, but a few people shouting the same things over and over again. If BOB can land DOB, I think most of that nonsense goes away. If not, people may be in for a shock when he is the starter again. Hopefully a new staff can put him or any QB up there in a better position to win.