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2010 Recruiting Class

  • So with signing day around the corner I was looking back at classes of the past and particularly the 2010 class that will be redshirt juniors and seniors this season. Well for the most part the class has be an enormous disappointment and for all the people that are into hyping class rankings and star watching this class would be the one class that shows it is worthless. The 2010 Class was ranked 12th by 247. Most of this class isn’t even with the team anymore and those prospects still with the team really haven’t done much to live up to their ranking. So here it is a look back on the 2010 class.

    Silas Redd (4 Star-96 rating)- No longer with team. Stud though.

    Rob Bolden (4 Star- 95 Rating)- No longer with team. Don’t really have to explain anything.

    Paul Jones (4 Star- 92 rating)- No longer with team. Never played QB at PSU. Massive disappointment.

    Khairi Fortt (4 Star- 94 rating)- No longer with team. Productive player when on the field but never lived
    up to the massive billing.

    Miles Diffenbach (4 Star- 93 Rating)- Starter on O-line. Looks like he’ll have a nice career at PSU as a 3 year starter.

    Dakota Royer (4 star- 92 rating)- No long with team. Intermural Superstar. Did nothing while on team.

    C.J. Olaniyian (4 Star- 92 Rating)- Solid DE. Looks to start or rotate the next two years. May live up to his 4 star billing. Jury still out though.

    Tom Ricketts (4 Star-91 Rating)- No longer with team. Did nothing while with it.

    Kyle Baublitz- (4 star-91 rating)- Looking for a breakout year as a RS JR. Has contributed but has been down on the depth chart.

    Alex Kinney (4 Star- 90 Rating)- Looking for a big RS JR year. So far all hype and no substance. So far big disappointment.

    Kevin Haplea- (3 Star 85 rating) - No longer on team. Marginal his first two years.

    Zach Zwiniak- (3 Star- 85 rating)- Starting tailback, exceeded expectations.

    Luke Graham (3 Star- 85 Rating)- No Longer with team. Contributed nothing.

    Evan Hailes (3 Star- 85 rating)- No longer with team. Unfortunate blood clot issue cut career short.

    Mike Hull (3 Star- 85 rating)- Projected starting LB. Looks like a stud. Great pickup.

    DaQuan Jones ( 3 star- 85 rating)- Starting DT. Exceed rating. Looks to take over for Jordan Hill in the middle.

    Brad Bars- (3 Star 80 rating)- Blue White game superstar. Maybe a good role/special teams player.
    Doesn’t look like he’ll be signifigant starter.

    Khamrone Kolb (3 Star- 80 rating)- No longer with team. Contributed nothing.

    So if your counting. Out of 18 signed players only 8 are still playing for the Nittany Lions. And out of those 8 only 6 are going to be main contributes to this team this season (Zwiniak, Jones, Hull, Diffenbach, Baublitz, Olaniyian). One is pretty much what we thought he was (Bars) and one is a pretty big disappointment so far (Kinney). So there you have it your 2010 class in review. JMO if this class were to be reranked to what the players contributed to PSU it would be very, very low. One of the “best classes ever” failed in epic fashion, and it wasn’t just the sanctions. A lot of these players were just over hyped and not very good.

    blackshoes ●

  • blackshoes said...

    So with signing day around the corner I was looking back at classes of the past and particularly the 2010 class that will be redshirt juniors and seniors this season. Well for the most part the class has be an enormous disappointment and for all the people that are into hyping class rankings and star watching this class would be the one class that shows it is worthless. The 2010 Class was ranked 12th by 247. Most of this class isn’t even with the team anymore and those prospects still with the team really haven’t done much to live up to their ranking. So here it is a look back on the 2010 class.

    Silas Redd (4 Star-96 rating)- No longer with team. Stud though.

    Rob Bolden (4 Star- 95 Rating)- No longer with team. Don’t really have to explain anything.

    Paul Jones (4 Star- 92 rating)- No longer with team. Never played QB at PSU. Massive disappointment.

    Khairi Fortt (4 Star- 94 rating)- No longer with team. Productive player when on the field but never lived up to the massive billing.

    Miles Diffenbach (4 Star- 93 Rating)- Starter on O-line. Looks like he’ll have a nice career at PSU as a 3 year starter.

    Dakota Royer (4 star- 92 rating)- No long with team. Intermural Superstar. Did nothing while on team.

    C.J. Olaniyian (4 Star- 92 Rating)- Solid DE. Looks to start or rotate the next two years. May live up to his 4 star billing. Jury still out though.

    Tom Ricketts (4 Star-91 Rating)- No longer with team. Did nothing while with it.

    Kyle Baublitz- (4 star-91 rating)- Looking for a breakout year as a RS JR. Has contributed but has been down on the depth chart.

    Alex Kinney (4 Star- 90 Rating)- Looking for a big RS JR year. So far all hype and no substance. So far big disappointment.

    Kevin Haplea- (3 Star 85 rating) - No longer on team. Marginal his first two years.

    Zach Zwiniak- (3 Star- 85 rating)- Starting tailback, exceeded expectations.

    Luke Graham (3 Star- 85 Rating)- No Longer with team. Contributed nothing.

    Evan Hailes (3 Star- 85 rating)- No longer with team. Unfortunate blood clot issue cut career short.

    Mike Hull (3 Star- 85 rating)- Projected starting LB. Looks like a stud. Great pickup.

    DaQuan Jones ( 3 star- 85 rating)- Starting DT. Exceed rating. Looks to take over for Jordan Hill in the middle.

    Brad Bars- (3 Star 80 rating)- Blue White game superstar. Maybe a good role/special teams player. Doesn’t look like he’ll be signifigant starter.

    Khamrone Kolb (3 Star- 80 rating)- No longer with team. Contributed nothing.

    So if your counting. Out of 18 signed players only 8 are still playing for the Nittany Lions. And out of those 8 only 6 are going to be main contributes to this team this season (Zwiniak, Jones, Hull, Diffenbach, Baublitz, Olaniyian). One is pretty much what we thought he was (Bars) and one is a pretty big disappointment so far (Kinney). So there you have it your 2010 class in review. JMO if this class were to be reranked to what the players contributed to PSU it would be very, very low. One of the “best classes ever” failed in epic fashion, and it wasn’t just the sanctions. A lot of these players were just over hyped and not very good.

    I could quibble with some word choices--though not many--and I largely agree with your assessment. This class looks a lot better today if only Redd and Fortt had stayed, but only Redd was a true "difference maker" in my opinion. Nevertheless, Hull, ZZ, Jones and Diff are all strong starters for this team going forward and the attrition at the top of the class provided opportunities for some younger guys.

    GRS154 ●

  • THis is just using this site. Other sites had Hull, Zwinak, and Jones rated 4 or 5 star.

    PSUFuzz ●

  • A lot has to do with the old staff's coaching and conditioning as well. If the new staff was in place in 2010, a couple of those guys wouldn't have flamed out.

    pennstate2012 ●

  • pennstate2012 said...

    A lot has to do with the old staff's coaching and conditioning as well. If the new staff was in place in 2010, a couple of those guys wouldn't have flamed out.

    I would love to hear which of these kids wouldn't have "flamed out" under the new staff. Please enlighten us.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • Considering Bolden would have had a real QB coach for two year, he could be one. Who knows how guys like Ricketts, Kolb, Fortt, would have turned out with a real S&C program. Would all bust players turn into starters? Obviously not. It is a fact the old conditioning program was a joke. Consider yourself enlightened.

    pennstate2012 ●

  • This program would be in SHAMBLES if the 2011 class hadnt turned out to be a stud class...

    Angelo-4 star- Will compete for starting time this year and will most likely be a multiple year starter

    Zettel-4 star- Likely starter at SDE as only a RS SOPH for 2013.

    Oakman-4 star- Had to kick rocks...

    Barnes-4 star- Uhh yea we all know about him...next big thing, early round talent.

    Smith- 4 star- Ya, will likely be a 4 year starter at LT for us...early round talent. Have only scratched the surface of his potential

    Nowicki-3 star- Benedict Arnold

    Belton-3 star- Starting RB at the beginning of the season as true soph, will certainly be a part of this offense for the next two years

    Kerner-3 Star- Had to retire due to injuries. Tough break.

    Alosi- 3 star- got some PT this year on mop up duty as a RS FR, should provide quality depth and will compete for a starting spot down the road

    Allen Robinson-3 Star- Ya, he's OK if you ask me..............

    Ben Kline-3 star- Will compete for starting LB spot this year, will know more after spring ball

    Kyle Carter-3 star- He aight ;)

    Amos- 3 Star- going to be a 3 year starter, All Big Ten player soon imo.

    Matt Z- Got some PT this year, should be interesting to see how he develops over the next 3 years

    Ficken 2 star- Ya we all know his story. Either way, won us the Wisky game and certainly improved week to week.

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    psu2013 ●

  • fortheglory94 said...

    I would love to hear which of these kids wouldn't have "flamed out" under the new staff. Please enlighten us.

    If you are trying to defend the old staff and conditioning program open your eyes man.

    The offensive staff was probably the worst offensive staff in the BCS man, same could be said about our strength program.

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    psu2013 ●

  • psu2013 said...

    If you are trying to defend the old staff and conditioning program open your eyes man.

    The offensive staff was probably the worst offensive staff in the BCS man, same could be said about our strength program.

    Everyone knows the S&C was lacking, and that the offensive staff had seen better days. But worst in the BCS? Nice hyperbole.

    Just curious, do you think the offensive staff was that bad their entire careers, or just lost a step in recent years?

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • PSUFuzz said...

    THis is just using this site. Other sites had Hull, Zwinak, and Jones rated 4 or 5 star.

    I didn't want to put the time into looking it all up and typing it down... but yes you are correct.

    blackshoes ●

  • I wouldn't call Hailes a bust exactly. His career got cut short for medical reasons beyond his control, but he stuck with the team to help out however he could

    PSUTodd217 ●

  • Compare that 2010 class to our much much less heralded 2011 class and the differences are night and day. The 2011 class has so many guys that are/will be multi-year starters for PSU. That 2011 class is really what our program is resting on in the 2013 season imo.

    PSU12 ●

  • PSUTodd217 said...

    I wouldn't call Hailes a bust exactly. His career got cut short for medical reasons beyond his control, but he stuck with the team to help out however he could

    Didn't call him a bust just he never contributed... so it was a "miss" because we got nothing out of him but who know's if he would have been a good player. Same could be said about Jordan Kerner. They could have been good players but bottom line is they took someones spot that class that could have had a greater impact even though it was through no fault of their own.

    blackshoes ●

  • fortheglory94 said...

    Everyone knows the S&C was lacking, and that the offensive staff had seen better days. But worst in the BCS? Nice hyperbole.

    Just curious, do you think the offensive staff was that bad their entire careers, or just lost a step in recent years?

    Joe was the best in his prime from the 60's to 1994.
    Dick Anderson was great in the 70's.
    Galen Hall was a hell of a coach in the 70's and 80's
    MM was probably the best offensive coach on the staff, and that is saying something now, but his wide receirvers did produce,
    Bill Kenney-underratted coach, but no where near the level of Mac McWhorter, or most OL coaches in the BIG
    Jay Paterno- Lets be serious now.

    Also, also.....Joe didnt recruit, Dick didnt recruit, Galen didnt recruit, Jay essentially didnt recruit and all that left was Kenney and MM.

    Seriously, the old offensive staff was truly pathetic.

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    psu2013 ●

  • fortheglory94 said...

    Everyone knows the S&C was lacking, and that the offensive staff had seen better days. But worst in the BCS? Nice hyperbole.

    Just curious, do you think the offensive staff was that bad their entire careers, or just lost a step in recent years?

    So who had a worse offensive staff in the BCS? Besides Galen Hall who on the previous offensive staff had any success anywhere? We had 2 freakin OL coaches at the same time for crying out loud!!!!! As much as it hurts to admit, Joe tore down half of what he built as a football program over his last 10 years, and thats without all the other bullshit. Downvote away........

    Edit: Dick Anderson slipped my mind.

    This post was edited by We Are27731 on 2/5/2013 at 10:59 AM

    We Are27731

  • I'm really excited about our 2012 class that was somewhat thrown together. Davis, Williams, Wartman, Wilkerson, Lynch, Lewis, Johnson, James, Bench, and Golden have all received high praise and good returns from our staff. Obviously many of their stories have yet to be written, but from early indications it looks good. They will be cornerstones for us having good seasons throughout the sanctions.

    PSU12 ●

  • psu2013 said...

    Joe was the best in his prime from the 60's to 1994. Dick Anderson was great in the 70's. Galen Hall was a hell of a coach in the 70's and 80's MM was probably the best offensive coach on the staff, and that is saying something now, but his wide receirvers did produce, Bill Kenney-underratted coach, but no where near the level of Mac McWhorter, or most OL coaches in the BIG Jay Paterno- Lets be serious now.

    Also, also.....Joe didnt recruit, Dick didnt recruit, Galen didnt recruit, Jay essentially didnt recruit and all that left was Kenney and MM.

    Seriously, the old offensive staff was truly pathetic.

    DA's lines were top notch well into the 80's, I'll disagree with you there. Regardless, your answer seems to be that they just got old. The recruiting that you bring up has nothing to be do with my response to the OP, that was in reference to the coaching once they got here. One thing I will say is that 1994 and 2005 happened with the same essential staff that you think was past their prime even then. Don't get me wrong, I was glad to see the offensive assts. move on. But to call them the worst in the BCS is too much of a stretch for me.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • Kenney and Bars have shown flashes. Hoping to see more of them this year. We've seen Kenney can play. I think Bars is underrated. With luck, he'll get a chance.

    "You can take bowl games and you can take external things from people, but you can't take a warrior's heart."

    fullback dive ●

  • fortheglory94 said...

    DA's lines were top notch well into the 80's, I'll disagree with you there. Regardless, your answer seems to be that they just got old. The recruiting that you bring up has nothing to be do with my response to the OP, that was in reference to the coaching once they got here. One thing I will say is that 1994 and 2005 happened with the same essential staff that you think was past their prime even then. Don't get me wrong, I was glad to see the offensive assts. move on. But to call them the worst in the BCS is too much of a stretch for me.

    Cool so DA was good in the 1980's.....2 years age was 2011!!! 21 years since the end of the 80s!!! 21!!!

    Ya they got old, getting old is still a valid reason to become shitty at your job and isnt an excuse at all, especially in the demanding profession they were in.

    Also, little history for ya!

    Galen Hall, started on the staff in 2004...10 years after 1994...

    MM. Started on the staff in 2004....10 years after 1994....

    So Jay Paterno and Dick Anderson and Bill Kenney were on the staff from at least1994/5 to 2005... and only one who pulling his weight which was Kenney.

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    psu2013 ●

  • fortheglory94 said...

    DA's lines were top notch well into the 80's, I'll disagree with you there. Regardless, your answer seems to be that they just got old. The recruiting that you bring up has nothing to be do with my response to the OP, that was in reference to the coaching once they got here. One thing I will say is that 1994 and 2005 happened with the same essential staff that you think was past their prime even then. Don't get me wrong, I was glad to see the offensive assts. move on. But to call them the worst in the BCS is too much of a stretch for me.

    Also bud, DA was only on the staff from 78-83 and then back in 1990. So 4 years in the 80's made his lines TOP NOTCH, when HE WASNT EVEN A COACH AT PENN STATE for the majority of the decade?

    lmao.

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    psu2013 ●

  • If you look at every recruiting class 4 years after they sign, you'd find that a little better than half of each class lives up to their billing (if you're lucky), which makes the sanctions that hard to overcome.. you just cant predict how a high school kid is going to handle college life and develop into a productive player in the big ten..

    BaltLions24 ●

  • BaltLions24 said...

    If you look at every recruiting class 4 years after they sign, you'd find that a little better than half of each class lives up to their billing (if you're lucky), which makes the sanctions that hard to overcome.. you just cant predict how a high school kid is going to handle college life and develop into a productive player in the big ten..

    Its more like 1/3% will be starters, 1/3% will be solid role players and 1/3% will never play a meaningful snap.

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  • psu2013 said...

    Also bud, DA was only on the staff from 78-83 and then back in 1990. So 4 years in the 80's made his lines TOP NOTCH, when HE WASNT EVEN A COACH AT PENN STATE for the majority of the decade?

    lmao.

    If 2013 is your graduation year, I love getting a history lesson from a 22 year old. Trust me, I don't need one from you. But I'm glad that you used Wikipedia to look up their years on the staff anyway. Either way, I am fully aware of when DA was on the staff. And yes, those early 80's years were the height for him.

    Again, I am more than satisfied with the new blood. You seem to be ignoring the fact that I keep saying that. But I will not agree with those of you that called them the worst staff in the BCS. We would have become Indiana, Minnesota, Kentucky, Washington St, Kansas, etc if they were. I know you'll reply that the defensive staff kept us from becoming that, so I'll save you the effort of typing it.

    "I believe in what Coach Paterno set forth.”- Garrett Sickels "A bowl game ain't nothing but a vacation."- Gerald Hodges

    fortheglory94

  • fortheglory94 said...

    If 2013 is your graduation year, I love getting a history lesson from a 22 year old. Trust me, I don't need one from you. But I'm glad that you used Wikipedia to look up their years on the staff anyway. Either way, I am fully aware of when DA was on the staff. And yes, those early 80's years were the height for him.

    Again, I am more than satisfied with the new blood. You seem to be ignoring the fact that I keep saying that. But I will not agree with those of you that called them the worst staff in the BCS. We would have become Indiana, Minnesota, Kentucky, Washington St, Kansas, etc if they were. I know you'll reply that the defensive staff kept us from becoming that, so I'll save you the effort of typing it.

    And im sure 94 is your graduating year and we all know how everyone who graduated before 2000 is essentially a Paterno apologist.

    And yea, having the arguably the best DL, LB and a top 5 DC on your defensive staff isnt going to keep you solely from the likes of Indiana, Minnesota and ect.

    Ok fine, so what if the 80's were the hight for DA....21 years later he had no business being an offensive coach at a program like Penn State.

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    psu2013 ●

  • I just have to say that if the old staff was around this year, they still wouldn't have been the worst in the Big Ten, much less the country. Please see the garbage fire in Urbana.

    psume06

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