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So with signing day around the corner I was looking back at classes of the past and particularly the 2010 class that will be redshirt juniors and seniors this season. Well for the most part the class has be an enormous disappointment and for all the people that are into hyping class rankings and star watching this class would be the one class that shows it is worthless. The 2010 Class was ranked 12th by 247. Most of this class isn’t even with the team anymore and those prospects still with the team really haven’t done much to live up to their ranking. So here it is a look back on the 2010 class.
Silas Redd (4 Star-96 rating)- No longer with team. Stud though.
Rob Bolden (4 Star- 95 Rating)- No longer with team. Don’t really have to explain anything.
Paul Jones (4 Star- 92 rating)- No longer with team. Never played QB at PSU. Massive disappointment.
Khairi Fortt (4 Star- 94 rating)- No longer with team. Productive player when on the field but never lived up to the massive billing.
Miles Diffenbach (4 Star- 93 Rating)- Starter on O-line. Looks like he’ll have a nice career at PSU as a 3 year starter.
Dakota Royer (4 star- 92 rating)- No long with team. Intermural Superstar. Did nothing while on team.
C.J. Olaniyian (4 Star- 92 Rating)- Solid DE. Looks to start or rotate the next two years. May live up to his 4 star billing. Jury still out though.
Tom Ricketts (4 Star-91 Rating)- No longer with team. Did nothing while with it.
Kyle Baublitz- (4 star-91 rating)- Looking for a breakout year as a RS JR. Has contributed but has been down on the depth chart.
Alex Kinney (4 Star- 90 Rating)- Looking for a big RS JR year. So far all hype and no substance. So far big disappointment.
Kevin Haplea- (3 Star 85 rating) - No longer on team. Marginal his first two years.
Zach Zwiniak- (3 Star- 85 rating)- Starting tailback, exceeded expectations.
Luke Graham (3 Star- 85 Rating)- No Longer with team. Contributed nothing.
Evan Hailes (3 Star- 85 rating)- No longer with team. Unfortunate blood clot issue cut career short.
Mike Hull (3 Star- 85 rating)- Projected starting LB. Looks like a stud. Great pickup.
DaQuan Jones ( 3 star- 85 rating)- Starting DT. Exceed rating. Looks to take over for Jordan Hill in the middle.
Brad Bars- (3 Star 80 rating)- Blue White game superstar. Maybe a good role/special teams player. Doesn’t look like he’ll be signifigant starter.
Khamrone Kolb (3 Star- 80 rating)- No longer with team. Contributed nothing.
So if your counting. Out of 18 signed players only 8 are still playing for the Nittany Lions. And out of those 8 only 6 are going to be main contributes to this team this season (Zwiniak, Jones, Hull, Diffenbach, Baublitz, Olaniyian). One is pretty much what we thought he was (Bars) and one is a pretty big disappointment so far (Kinney). So there you have it your 2010 class in review. JMO if this class were to be reranked to what the players contributed to PSU it would be very, very low. One of the “best classes ever” failed in epic fashion, and it wasn’t just the sanctions. A lot of these players were just over hyped and not very good.
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pennstate2012 said...
A lot has to do with the old staff's coaching and conditioning as well. If the new staff was in place in 2010, a couple of those guys wouldn't have flamed out.
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psu2013 said...
If you are trying to defend the old staff and conditioning program open your eyes man.
The offensive staff was probably the worst offensive staff in the BCS man, same could be said about our strength program.
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fortheglory94 said...
Everyone knows the S&C was lacking, and that the offensive staff had seen better days. But worst in the BCS? Nice hyperbole.
Just curious, do you think the offensive staff was that bad their entire careers, or just lost a step in recent years?
I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.
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fortheglory94 said...
Everyone knows the S&C was lacking, and that the offensive staff had seen better days. But worst in the BCS? Nice hyperbole.
Just curious, do you think the offensive staff was that bad their entire careers, or just lost a step in recent years?
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psu2013 said...
Joe was the best in his prime from the 60's to 1994. Dick Anderson was great in the 70's. Galen Hall was a hell of a coach in the 70's and 80's MM was probably the best offensive coach on the staff, and that is saying something now, but his wide receirvers did produce, Bill Kenney-underratted coach, but no where near the level of Mac McWhorter, or most OL coaches in the BIG Jay Paterno- Lets be serious now.
Also, also.....Joe didnt recruit, Dick didnt recruit, Galen didnt recruit, Jay essentially didnt recruit and all that left was Kenney and MM.
Seriously, the old offensive staff was truly pathetic.
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fortheglory94 said...
DA's lines were top notch well into the 80's, I'll disagree with you there. Regardless, your answer seems to be that they just got old. The recruiting that you bring up has nothing to be do with my response to the OP, that was in reference to the coaching once they got here. One thing I will say is that 1994 and 2005 happened with the same essential staff that you think was past their prime even then. Don't get me wrong, I was glad to see the offensive assts. move on. But to call them the worst in the BCS is too much of a stretch for me.
I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.
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fortheglory94 said...
DA's lines were top notch well into the 80's, I'll disagree with you there. Regardless, your answer seems to be that they just got old. The recruiting that you bring up has nothing to be do with my response to the OP, that was in reference to the coaching once they got here. One thing I will say is that 1994 and 2005 happened with the same essential staff that you think was past their prime even then. Don't get me wrong, I was glad to see the offensive assts. move on. But to call them the worst in the BCS is too much of a stretch for me.
I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.
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BaltLions24 said...
If you look at every recruiting class 4 years after they sign, you'd find that a little better than half of each class lives up to their billing (if you're lucky), which makes the sanctions that hard to overcome.. you just cant predict how a high school kid is going to handle college life and develop into a productive player in the big ten..
I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.
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psu2013 said...
Also bud, DA was only on the staff from 78-83 and then back in 1990. So 4 years in the 80's made his lines TOP NOTCH, when HE WASNT EVEN A COACH AT PENN STATE for the majority of the decade?
lmao.
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If 2013 is your graduation year, I love getting a history lesson from a 22 year old. Trust me, I don't need one from you. But I'm glad that you used Wikipedia to look up their years on the staff anyway. Either way, I am fully aware of when DA was on the staff. And yes, those early 80's years were the height for him.
Again, I am more than satisfied with the new blood. You seem to be ignoring the fact that I keep saying that. But I will not agree with those of you that called them the worst staff in the BCS. We would have become Indiana, Minnesota, Kentucky, Washington St, Kansas, etc if they were. I know you'll reply that the defensive staff kept us from becoming that, so I'll save you the effort of typing it.
I guess I should warn you, if I turn out to be particularly clear, you've probably misunderstood what I've said.
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