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The Big 33 game is in the books, the Class of 2012 is making its way to campus and LeBron has his ring. Summer has arrived. It seemed like a good week to touch on a number of topics, so here we go …

Devon Smith

Dismissing Devon Smith was probably not an easy decision for Penn State coach Bill O'Brien.

-- Without knowing the full details of the situation (and, if we've learned anything about Penn State's new coach so far, he's not going to share them), I have to credit Bill O'Brien with what was likely a tough decision in parting ways with Devon Smith.

Smith is the third player O'Brien has dismissed from the team since taking over in January, joining defensive end Shawn Oakman and wideout/cornerback Curtis Drake. Both Drake and Smith were established playmakers on a roster that isn't crawling with dynamic skill guys and, though the Nittany Lions have other options at both positions (more options at receiver than corner, of course), a lot of coaches might have found reasons to keep them in the fold.

The fact that O'Brien didn't, though, sends a clear message to those both inside and outside the program that a player's status with the team depends on far more than his position on the depth chart. The new guy in town doesn't want to clear too much house early on, for fear of alienating his players, but when O'Brien was willing to do so with veterans who would have definitely seen lots of the field this season, it showed that the emphasis he puts on how his players conduct themselves away from the football complex wasn't just lip service.

-- College football was eventually going to some kind of playoff system, and the four-team model announced this week is a good one because it isn't a radical departure from the current system (it adds only one more game to the season and allows the major bowls to retain their status) but does do away with the convoluted BCS format that frustrated so many fan bases over the years.

It also allows the decision-makers and string-pullers in college football a smoother transition if they do decide to go to an eight-team or 16-team playoff a few years down the road. So kudos to the commissioners for a weighed and balanced decision. Then again, it isn't as though the life of the sport depended on a successful decision about the playoff model. College football generates incredible amounts of revenue for universities (and the bowl games themselves), and that would have been the case under the old system just as it will be under the new one.

-- I know I wrote about this topic last week, but it's clearer and clearer with every incoming freshman that I talk to just how tight this Penn State Class of 2012 is. They have a Facebook page that only they can access where they keep in touch with one another, and every time I check my Twitter feed it seems that two or three of them have messaged each other or a few players in the Class of 2013. It remains to be seen how much impact this group will have on the field in 2012 but the foundation the program could have gone in a lot of different directions during the last several months and these kids seem determined to keep it solid.

-- Penn State freshman student football tickets sold out in a half hour this morning. The STEP plan is very likely going to make for a few more empty seats in Beaver Stadium this fall than most fans are accustomed to, but it won't be because of the students. Want to give the alumni incentive to buy season tickets, Penn State? Start gradually allotting more seats to the students each year. They might not always get there in time for noon kickoffs, but they'll certainly fork over money for the chance to be there.

Jeff Rice
    • Great article Jeff, interesting note on the private fb page for the recruits to keep in touch on...

      NCarolinaNit

    • I agree with the more student tix idea... Def would help initially and create incentive for alumni to buy tix.

      rmj147

    • Well done. Some thoughts...

      1. You made a great point about OB trying to find the balance between disciplinarian and a trustworthy HC. Certainly is an element of the position that can have a great impact, both positive and negative.

      2. It is great to hear that the 2012 class is so tight. Would much rather have every kid in that class than the ones who chose "greener" grass.

      PSU42Fan

    • Respectfully have to disagree with you regarding student tickets Jeff. The issue isn't that they don't show up on time (they've been doing that forever and the new gate system at the Beav for students has exacerbated the situation), it's that most of the time there's huge gaps in the student section. The Illinois game was a perfect example. At the end, there's this awesome YT of all the students walking over and gathering behind the end zone, to "help" stop that final FG. Well they wouldn't have had to do if it weren't for 30% of the student section missing. Yes it was an ugly weather game, but in years past we've still had students showing up in force in poor weather games. In my freshman year in 1998, we played Michigan state on Thanksgiving, and we comletely filled the student section. That didn't remotely happen last year.

      They may buy them, but they sure don't show up. It used to be you could count on others snapping those tickets up in the secondary market, but PSU shut the secondary market for student tickets down. The solultion for empty seats caused by STEP isn't to give the students more tickets, because it would just create more empty seats. The solution is to fix STEP so people can actually afford to goto games. That's basically the only reason we've been seeing such poor attendence over the last 2 years.

      appoo

    • Great article.

      More students would be a great idea. We'd be even louder than we already are. If we could make it 50/50 students to others that would be sweet. Also be pretty funny to see one side be silent while the later side or the 50 just going nuts for three hours.

      Texas Lion

    • Texas Lion said...

      Great article.

      More students would be a great idea. We'd be even louder than we already are. If we could make it 50/50 students to others that would be sweet. Also be pretty funny to see one side be silent while the later side or the 50 just going nuts for three hours.

      Hey now, I was always on my feet during games!

      appoo

    • Let's wait an see WHEN the students arrive at the game and for HOW LONG they stay at the game.

      jayer

    • appoo said...

      The Illinois game was a perfect example.

      Oh, come on. It was the first bad weather of the year, and it wasn't just a dusting. The entire stadium had bald patches, not just the student section.

      PureRockFury

    • appoo said...

      Respectfully have to disagree with you regarding student tickets Jeff. The issue isn't that they don't show up on time (they've been doing that forever and the new gate system at the Beav for students has exacerbated the situation), it's that most of the time there's huge gaps in the student section. The Illinois game was a perfect example. At the end, there's this awesome YT of all the students walking over and gathering behind the end zone, to "help" stop that final FG. Well they wouldn't have had to do if it weren't for 30% of the student section missing. Yes it was an ugly weather game, but in years past we've still had students showing up in force in poor weather games. In my freshman year in 1998, we played Michigan state on Thanksgiving, and we comletely filled the student section. That didn't remotely happen last year.

      They may buy them, but they sure don't show up. It used to be you could count on others snapping those tickets up in the secondary market, but PSU shut the secondary market for student tickets down. The solultion for empty seats caused by STEP isn't to give the students more tickets, because it would just create more empty seats. The solution is to fix STEP so people can actually afford to goto games. That's basically the only reason we've been seeing such poor attendence over the last 2 years.

      I sat on the PSU corner of the end zone for that game, and IMO those seats weren't really empty. We just packed it 2 or 3 deep on every bench.

      Students will show up if we're good. That 1998 team was a pretty darn good one, and wasn't coming off a 7-6 season and had barely beaten Temple this year.

      Texas Lion

    • appoo said...

      Hey now, I was always on my feet during games!

      No offense bud, not directed toward you, but the vast majority of the non-student sections are sitting and quiet no matter the situation.

      Texas Lion

    • appoo said...

      Respectfully have to disagree with you regarding student tickets Jeff. The issue isn't that they don't show up on time (they've been doing that forever and the new gate system at the Beav for students has exacerbated the situation), it's that most of the time there's huge gaps in the student section. The Illinois game was a perfect example. At the end, there's this awesome YT of all the students walking over and gathering behind the end zone, to "help" stop that final FG. Well they wouldn't have had to do if it weren't for 30% of the student section missing. Yes it was an ugly weather game, but in years past we've still had students showing up in force in poor weather games. In my freshman year in 1998, we played Michigan state on Thanksgiving, and we comletely filled the student section. That didn't remotely happen last year.

      They may buy them, but they sure don't show up. It used to be you could count on others snapping those tickets up in the secondary market, but PSU shut the secondary market for student tickets down. The solultion for empty seats caused by STEP isn't to give the students more tickets, because it would just create more empty seats. The solution is to fix STEP so people can actually afford to goto games. That's basically the only reason we've been seeing such poor attendence over the last 2 years.

      The students, in my opinion, have been a mixed bag the last few years. Sometimes they show up in force. Sometimes not. Sometimes they'll come late and stay late, sometimes they'll leave early. When they're on, it legitimately is the best student section in the country, and they tend to spread more energy to the older alumni in other parts of the stadium. When they're off, well ... it's a little like being in West Lafayette or Champaign. I think they'd snatch up extra tickets if given the chance but, as you pointed out, are more likely to have those tickets go to waste depending on the weather, start time, opponent, Thanksgiving weekend, etc.

      I agree with you that STEP needs more fixing than adding a few more student tickets, but I'm not sure what that is (other than O'Brien winning like 26 of his first 30 games with a couple of B10 titles, of course).

      Jeff Rice

    • jayer said...

      Let's wait an see WHEN the students arrive at the game and for HOW LONG they stay at the game.

      No matter WHEN we show up, or for HOW LONG we stay, we are infinitely more important to the game atmosphere than the other 80,000 people at the Beav.

      Texas Lion

    • appoo said...

      That's basically the only reason we've been seeing such poor attendence over the last 2 years.

      Not even close.

      We were putting a boring ass product on the field. STEP will be fine once people have a reason to go to games.

      leftcoastlion

    • Who left that 247 on the field for Devon to trip over?

      PSGrue

    • The 2012 class wil have a few studs, good players, and awesome role players

      philafan

    • Small edit to a good article, Yesterday's student ticket sale was freshmen only that sold out in 32 minutes, my daughter was one of the lucky winners. The seniors, juniors and sophomores have been the 3 days prior. Grad school kids today.

      This post was edited by danmcc on 6/22/2012 at 9:47 AM

      danmcc

    • PSGrue said...

      Who left that 247 on the field for Devon to trip over?

      Hahaha, well done. +1

      Texas Lion

    • Jeff Rice said...

      The students, in my opinion, have been a mixed bag the last few years. Sometimes they show up in force. Sometimes not. Sometimes they'll come late and stay late, sometimes they'll leave early. When they're on, it legitimately is the best student section in the country, and they tend to spread more energy to the older alumni in other parts of the stadium. When they're off, well ... it's a little like being in West Lafayette or Champaign. I think they'd snatch up extra tickets if given the chance but, as you pointed out, are more likely to have those tickets go to waste depending on the weather, start time, opponent, Thanksgiving weekend, etc.

      I agree with you that STEP needs more fixing than adding a few more student tickets, but I'm not sure what that is (other than O'Brien winning like 26 of his first 30 games with a couple of B10 titles, of course).

      I don't know that winning will fix that. It's not like we sucked here. We had one poor season, coming off of like 4 good to great years, that included the 7th highest winning% and a couple of Big 10 titles. The season after we beat LSU in the Cap One Bowl, we struggled with a freshman QB and a injured, young D - but generally PSU fans have always been ok with a rebuilding year here and there, and still turned up in force the next season.

      From Game 1 onwards. there were obvious signs of attendance issues.We call ourselves among the most passionate fanbase in America for good reason, and for Penn State fans to leave pockets of seats like that, in a year where we started 8 - 1, it goes way beyond what's happening on the field.

      IMO, we need to ditch STEP, and rethink that entire idea. If you want more revenue out of fans, just raise ticket prices by like $5 across the board. But there's a definite limit to how much Pennsylvanians are willing to pay for a season ticket.

      We also need to re-think how we execute student tickets. Let them sell the tickets to whomever they want in the secondary market.

      appoo

    • Texas Lion said...

      No matter WHEN we show up, or for HOW LONG we stay, we are infinitely more important to the game atmosphere than the other 80,000 people at the Beav.

      I wouldn't say infinitely, but I agree with the sentiment. Students are always going to be louder, but Penn State fans are generally are pretty passionate and enthusiastic when it matters.

      appoo

    • leftcoastlion said...

      Not even close.

      We were putting a boring ass product on the field. STEP will be fine once people have a reason to go to games.

      I'm not sure about STEP but PSU sure was hard to enjoy watching. I live in Florida and don't make it to many games. But often when watching PSU games on the tube, I found myself checking out other games which I never would have done before. I used to make 8 hour round trips to see every PSU home game but feel reasonably sure I wouldn't have been doing that lately. If the new staff is as capable as they appear to be, the stands will again be full.

      FlaLion

    • appoo said...

      I wouldn't say infinitely, but I agree with the sentiment. Students are always going to be louder, but Penn State fans are generally are pretty passionate and enthusiastic when it matters.

      In my two years, the loud fans outside of the student section are few and far between.

      I remember against Michigan in 2010, on a third down conversion I was yelling and looked over at the other sections next to the student section on the visitors side and near the 30 everybody was sitting, and only one old man cupped his mouth (with one hand) and looked like he was cheering. It pissed me off. Why take up a seat in the stadium if you're not going to cheer? Might as well stay at home and watch from the couch.

      When I went to OU games before there was the same issue. The students would bring it but the other sections sat for the majority of the game.

      Texas Lion

    • appoo said...

      Respectfully have to disagree with you regarding student tickets Jeff. The issue isn't that they don't show up on time (they've been doing that forever and the new gate system at the Beav for students has exacerbated the situation), it's that most of the time there's huge gaps in the student section. The Illinois game was a perfect example. At the end, there's this awesome YT of all the students walking over and gathering behind the end zone, to "help" stop that final FG. Well they wouldn't have had to do if it weren't for 30% of the student section missing. Yes it was an ugly weather game, but in years past we've still had students showing up in force in poor weather games. In my freshman year in 1998, we played Michigan state on Thanksgiving, and we comletely filled the student section. That didn't remotely happen last year.

      They may buy them, but they sure don't show up. It used to be you could count on others snapping those tickets up in the secondary market, but PSU shut the secondary market for student tickets down. The solultion for empty seats caused by STEP isn't to give the students more tickets, because it would just create more empty seats. The solution is to fix STEP so people can actually afford to goto games. That's basically the only reason we've been seeing such poor attendence over the last 2 years.

      thats becuase they keep messing up the tickets they hand out, my buddies and i try to get in earlier then most (before the game starts) but sometimes they would send u in the worst seats, and people that come later end up in a better section, which is infuriating!!!! every student by the third game would enter the stadium and then just sit wherever they wanted because the ticket situation was a joke and not enforced

      Roaringlion

    • Texas Lion said...

      In my two years, the loud fans outside of the student section are few and far between.

      I remember against Michigan in 2010, on a third down conversion I was yelling and looked over at the other sections next to the student section on the visitors side and near the 30 everybody was sitting, and only one old man cupped his mouth (with one hand) and looked like he was cheering. It pissed me off. Why take up a seat in the stadium if you're not going to cheer? Might as well stay at home and watch from the couch.

      When I went to OU games before there was the same issue. The students would bring it but the other sections sat for the majority of the game.

      West Side or East side? West side is definitely more restrained than the East.

      appoo

    • Roaringlion said...

      thats becuase they keep messing up the tickets they hand out, my buddies and i try to get in earlier then most (before the game starts) but sometimes they would send u in the worst seats, and people that come later end up in a better section, which is infuriating!!!! every student by the third game would enter the stadium and then just sit wherever they wanted because the ticket situation was a joke and not enforced

      Yea I've heard some stories about this. Students have always been a bit late, but I think Penn State made the situation a lot worse. I don't mind students showing up late, or leaving early in a game that's competitively over, but rather when they don't show up at all.

      To put this in persepctive, during the dark years, the students and rest of the stadium would mostly fill up. We had better attendence in back to back 3 - 9 seasons then we did last year IMO. It was actually selling point for kids like DWill and Justin King. They saw the passion of Penn State fans.

      This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by appoo on 6/22/2012 at 10:40 AM

      appoo

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